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OPEC says it has lost control of oil prices (Cartel says it can't keep up with strong global demand)
MSNBC ^ | 03/16/2005 | John W. Schoen

Posted on 03/16/2005 8:59:03 AM PST by drt1

Despite a pledge by OPEC ministers to increase oil production, don't expect much of a break on oil prices. With crude oil prices hitting a record $56 a barrel Wednesday, OPEC ministers meeting in Iran have been grappling with a problem they haven’t confronted in the cartel’s 45-year history. In the past, OPEC tried to cool overheated prices by pumping more when supplies got too tight. But most OPEC producers say they’re already pumping as fast as they can. And despite the high cost of a barrel of crude, world demand shows no signs of slowing...

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: chinesedemand; drill; drilldrilldrill; energyprices; nukenuke; oil; opec
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1 posted on 03/16/2005 8:59:03 AM PST by drt1
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To: drt1

Statements like this are a speculator's dream.


2 posted on 03/16/2005 9:01:13 AM PST by mpreston
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To: drt1
DRILL!
DRILL!
DRILL!
DRILL!
DRILL!
DRILL!
DRILL!
DRILL!
DRILL!
3 posted on 03/16/2005 9:02:22 AM PST by ApesForEvolution (I just took a Muhammad and wiped my Jihadist with Mein Koran...come and get me nutbags.)
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To: drt1
Let's see now... drill ANWAR, drill the Gulf of Mexico, drill the Kalifornia coast and the Oregon coast, drill the Aleutians, drill the Atlantic sea board, drill Martha Vineyard, drill Floriduh, and seed and grow many nuke plants for a start....
4 posted on 03/16/2005 9:06:51 AM PST by demlosers (We win. They lose. USA number 1 ! IYAAYAS !)
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To: All
Factor this:

Remember back in 1980 when the price of Gas first topped $1.00 per Gallon? Since then we have gotten used to Gas being over the magic number, that's why it doesn't hurt as much right? Wrong!

In real (inflation adjusted dollars) gas is actually still cheaper than it was back in 1980!

Even though a gallon of unleaded in the US has shot up 21 cents per gallon recently...

And Gasoline is fast approaching the peak prices seen during both Gulf Wars...

Though many in the press are claiming that gas prices are at an all time high...

When adjusted for inflation, it is clear that gasoline prices are far below the 1981 inflation-adjusted peak of $2.94.

About supply and demand. Think prices are bad now? Watch it skyrocket if there is a major disruption due to geopolitics, nature, terrorism........!

5 posted on 03/16/2005 9:08:06 AM PST by AWestCoaster
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To: ApesForEvolution
DRILL! ANWAR!
DRILL! ANWAR!
DRILL! ANWAR!
DRILL! ANWAR!
DRILL! ANWAR!
DRILL! ANWAR!
DRILL! ANWAR!
DRILL! ANWAR!
DRILL! ANWAR!
6 posted on 03/16/2005 9:10:09 AM PST by HardStarboard (nwar)
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To: demlosers

Those actions would seem to be the only logical actions that can be taken given the longer term energy needs and, contrary to naysayers, it can be done safely and responsibly.


7 posted on 03/16/2005 9:13:12 AM PST by drt1
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To: HardStarboard

There and many other places...


8 posted on 03/16/2005 9:14:39 AM PST by ApesForEvolution (I just took a Muhammad and wiped my Jihadist with Mein Koran...come and get me nutbags.)
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To: drt1
As long as everybody is in the same energy boat, the world will cope just fine.

This will merely make alternatives and conservation more palatable.

It is not the end of the world, as the catastrophe-junkies would have you believe.

9 posted on 03/16/2005 9:14:39 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Drug prohibition laws help fund terrorism.)
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To: drt1

Might as well disband OPEC, then. Wasn't the whole purpose of it to control oil prices? What we got here, is irrational exuberance. My faith in process, though, says that, as prices rise abruptly, so will production -- evening the keel. A corollary principle, I believe, is that research and development will be spurred, creating new, non-petroleum-based energy solutions. It isn't immediate, but it is more immediate than it was yesterday.


10 posted on 03/16/2005 9:15:08 AM PST by Migraine
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To: drt1

Check out this thread already going.

ANWR debate on C-span right now!

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1363986/posts


11 posted on 03/16/2005 9:17:43 AM PST by Eagle of Liberty ("Science without religion is lame; religion without science is blind." —Albert Einstein)
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To: ApesForEvolution

I believe shale oil becomes economically feasible to harvest at $30/bbl.


12 posted on 03/16/2005 9:18:03 AM PST by Mad_Tom_Rackham (This just in from CBS: "There is no bias at CBS")
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To: drt1

Shoot OPEC showed what it wanted a few weeks ago, when prices were in the lower 40's for a barrel and OPEC cut production, causing prices to shoot back up to $50.


13 posted on 03/16/2005 9:27:09 AM PST by jbwbubba
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To: AWestCoaster

exactamundo - "In real (inflation adjusted dollars) gas is actually still cheaper than it was back in 1980!"

Before Xmas,my pops said gas could reach $80 dollars a barrel in the next year or two, I said you are mad, OPEC would be shooting itself in the foot and my dad said exactly what you did...

then when someone from OPEC said the exact same thing a few weeks ago, about oil reaching $80 a barrel in the next year or two, I had to bow down to my father and say, you were right, I'm not worthy.....and oh my god, he also said something like OPEC doesn't matter any more

(he's heavily invested in Canadian oil companies right now, doing quite well)

he also says Canada now produces more oil than Saudi Arabia, when you include all the tar sands, now that I'd have to confirm (could be semantics crude vs refined?) which explains why the Chinese been sniffing around trying to buy into the oil industry here and other natural resources


14 posted on 03/16/2005 9:28:36 AM PST by llama hunter (T)
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To: newgeezer

Time to sell those SUV's.


15 posted on 03/16/2005 9:29:58 AM PST by biblewonk (Neither was the man created for woman but the woman for the man.)
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham
I believe shale oil becomes economically feasible to harvest at $30/bbl.

Oil shale has a serious problem - the availability of water. The Colorado flows past massive oil shale deposits. And every drop in that river is already claimed. It would take a fair amount of that water to recover the oil in the shale.

16 posted on 03/16/2005 9:31:09 AM PST by dirtboy (Drooling moron since 1998...)
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To: drt1

Maybe 'someone' is stockpiling oil. I don't know how the increase in demand can be SO drastic and immediate. Especially, in conjunction with the outset of hostilities in Iraq and Afghanistan. I seems too coincidental.


17 posted on 03/16/2005 9:32:29 AM PST by SMARTY
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To: SMARTY

china


18 posted on 03/16/2005 9:36:42 AM PST by bigsigh
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To: SMARTY

its speculation, the hedge funds and the big brokerage houses are using oil as they did with tech stocks in the late 90s.

Drilling is fine, but it won't pop the speculative bubble.


19 posted on 03/16/2005 9:37:36 AM PST by oceanview
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To: demlosers
Drill is a dead issue - I am all for it but its a temporary solution - we need alternative fuel production - clean coal, wind, nuclear, hybrid cars, etc.

We all say that space expolration yielded great practical advancements - we need such a program for alternative fuel program - it would generate new techonolgy and good jobs.

20 posted on 03/16/2005 9:42:34 AM PST by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting johnathangaltfilms.com and jihadwatch.org)
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