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Going Nuclear
The American Spectator ^ | March 16, 2005 | The Prowler

Posted on 03/16/2005 3:43:55 AM PST by Cincinatus

When Senate minority leader Harry Reid held an impromptu press conference on Tuesday, reporters were somewhat stunned by his pleading tone and urgent manner. Reid pleaded for Republican Senators not to resort to the so-called "nuclear option" in changing parliamentary rules that would cut the necessary confirmation vote for judges from 60 to a mere majority.

Reid essentially threatened to shut down the Senate if the parliamentary tactic were used.

Reid's urgency may be the result of a closed-door -- what some Republican staff called secret -- Senate Republican caucus luncheon on Tuesday afternoon.

Rumors were circulating in the Capitol's halls and on K Street that the subject of the luncheon was when and how the nuclear option would be used in the very near future.

Senior staff for Republicans Senators were mum about the specifics of the meeting, but one staffer said "pending business" was a part of the discussion, "and the confirmation judges is certainly pending business."

The Senate staffer added, "We're expecting this thing to come to a head, and it appears that the Democrats are finally getting the message."

In his remarks before reporters, Reid pleaded with Republicans to come back to the negotiating table to discuss ways around the nuclear option.


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 109th; filabuster; nuclearoption; obstructionistdems; reid; ussenate
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The Senate staffer added, "We're expecting this thing to come to a head, and it appears that the Democrats are finally getting the message."

This comment suggests to me that the Republicans are bluffing. I also suspect that they don't have 51 GOP votes to overturn the Senate rule. However, it appears from Reid's tirade yesterday that it's the Dems who are ready to blink. Stay tuned.

1 posted on 03/16/2005 3:43:55 AM PST by Cincinatus
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To: Cincinatus
I also suspect that they don't have 51 GOP votes to overturn the Senate rule.

Well, if it's true that Mitch McConnell is wet on this issue, I'm sure they don't have the votes.

Cardiovascular surgeons have many collective personality "issues", but lack of balls isn't one of them.

They all can count, though.

2 posted on 03/16/2005 3:48:10 AM PST by Jim Noble
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To: Cincinatus; 7.62 x 51mm

there is no gain, no sense, and definately no logical reason to appease these senators who have proven for so long that they are as against this country as much as the very terrorists who would gladly kill everyone in this country.... screw'em, before they screw us more than they already have


3 posted on 03/16/2005 3:50:18 AM PST by sure_fine (*not one to over kill the thought process*)
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To: Cincinatus
Reid essentially threatened to shut down the Senate if the parliamentary tactic were used.

Make our day, Senator.

4 posted on 03/16/2005 3:51:10 AM PST by mewzilla (Has CBS retracted the story yet?)
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To: Cincinatus

If Reid didn't think the Republicans would do it he wouldn't have pulled that stunt yesterday.


5 posted on 03/16/2005 3:55:12 AM PST by mainepatsfan
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To: Cincinatus
Reid's the best friend the GOP has. If I were him I'd have the Democrats get up on the floor and support the change in rules to prevent the filibuster of judicial candidates...then say that the Democrats want to take the matter even further and adopt rules that would prevent judicial candidates from being bottled up in committee. Then I'd detail the Clinton candidates that were tied up by Jesse Helms. The media would go nuts, the GOP would be on the defensive in every Sunday talk show including FOX, and the whole matter might go away.

But instead Reid is talking about his own nuclear option and looking like an obstructionist ass. Ya gotta love it.

6 posted on 03/16/2005 3:55:34 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: mainepatsfan

That's the whole point of a bluff, isn't it?


7 posted on 03/16/2005 3:55:59 AM PST by Cincinatus (Omnia relinquit servare Republicam)
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To: Cincinatus

We gonna nuke RATS?? oh boy pass the popcorn!


8 posted on 03/16/2005 3:59:26 AM PST by rrrod
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To: Cincinatus

I have been waiting for 10 years for the Republicans to act like Republicans. I am getting extremely tired of the Republican "WIMP" party. The budget only goes up. They never stand up to the Dems because they are scared to death of the media. It's time for the Republicans to stand up and be "MEN" (even the women). Start protecting the borders and cut the budget of all that waste!! I am not going to vote for any dem but I may not vote for anymore Republicans either!!
I received a call from the Republican party for (what else?) money and I couldn't even understand the guy who called! Are the Republicans outsourcing their fund raising to another country?
This bullcrap has got to STOP! To hell with Harry Reid!


9 posted on 03/16/2005 4:03:23 AM PST by Cricket24 ("We have met the enemy and it's the U.S. press (and the democrats)!")
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To: mewzilla

Doesn't ANYBODY remember what happened when the House effectively shut down the operations of the US government on a similar impasse in 1995?

The outcome reflected badly on the political party and its leader that had called for the shutdown.

Harry Reid represents the party that is calling for the shutdown now.

If the Democrats want the right to filibuster so badly, then let them carry out their threat. By staying on filibuster until they either win, or break.

I am betting the Democrats break first.


10 posted on 03/16/2005 4:03:48 AM PST by alloysteel ("Master of the painfully obvious.....")
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To: martin_fierro; Petronski
The Senate staffer added, "We're expecting this thing to come to a head

Gotta like this head.

11 posted on 03/16/2005 4:05:05 AM PST by beyond the sea (Colonial Script........... or nationalize The Federal Bank..)
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To: Cricket24
I have been waiting for 10 years for the Republicans to act like Republicans. I am getting extremely tired of the Republican "WIMP" party. The budget only goes up. They never stand up to the Dems because they are scared to death of the media. It's time for the Republicans to stand up and be "MEN" (even the women). Start protecting the borders and cut the budget of all that waste!! I am not going to vote for any dem but I may not vote for anymore Republicans either

I agree with you, neighbor.

12 posted on 03/16/2005 4:06:30 AM PST by backhoe ("It's so easy to spend someone else's money." [My Dad, circa 1958])
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To: mewzilla
Reid essentially threatened to shut down the Senate if the parliamentary tactic were used.

Make our day, Senator.

Yep..
an absolute WIN-WIN!!

13 posted on 03/16/2005 4:07:29 AM PST by evad
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To: Cricket24
Start protecting the borders and cut the budget of all that waste!!

What makes you think that the Republicans want to cut spending?

14 posted on 03/16/2005 4:08:04 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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Call it the NIKE option...

JUST DO IT!

15 posted on 03/16/2005 4:09:40 AM PST by evad
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To: alloysteel
I am betting the Democrats break first.

With Reid's threat, I'd say that's already happened :)

16 posted on 03/16/2005 4:12:49 AM PST by mewzilla (Has CBS retracted the story yet?)
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To: Cincinatus

Note to Reid:

Stuff it, whiner. Payback's a b**ch.


17 posted on 03/16/2005 4:22:57 AM PST by RightOnline
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To: evad
excellent! I wish we had just one fire-in-the-belly senator that would just go in the well and chastize the Dems for even attempting to filabuster the apointees. I know some have, but someone who speaks like Scalia, with purpose and respect for the constitution.
18 posted on 03/16/2005 4:25:06 AM PST by Yinzer
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To: Cincinatus
"...changing parliamentary rules that would cut the necessary confirmation vote for judges from 60 to a mere majority"

There is no such rule to change, the Republicans should force this issue because the Democrats are the ones changing the rules. Confirmation of judges is NOT one of the few specific instances calling for a "super majority" enumerated in the Constitution.

19 posted on 03/16/2005 4:25:19 AM PST by BB2
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To: alloysteel
Doesn't ANYBODY remember what happened when the House effectively shut down the operations of the US government on a similar impasse in 1995? The outcome reflected badly on the political party and its leader that had called for the shutdown. Harry Reid represents the party that is calling for the shutdown now.

I remember it very well. I remember a media feeding frenzy that morphed Newt into the Grinch. I remember sob stories from laid-off federal workers, whining that their families would have to eat dirt this Christmas because of the Scrooge Republicans in the House. I especially remember Clinton, aided by a nearly monolithic maintream media, pummeling the GOP as heartless creeps, while he quivered his lip.

Make no mistake -- if there's a Senate "shutdown", the Democrats will be the very last people in the world that the media will blame.

20 posted on 03/16/2005 4:29:18 AM PST by Cincinatus (Omnia relinquit servare Republicam)
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