Posted on 03/15/2005 8:02:35 AM PST by pissant
I have never been intellectually capable of believing the theory that every governmental agency across the Globe (some in collusion with saddam's government) could have all reached the identical conclusion that they had stockpiles of WMD, and been completely wrong. If this had been 1869 I might believe that a possibility. In 2003, no. Perhaps we lacked the well connected intelligence services on the ground we would have preferred, but in this age I do not believe we could be that wrong. How do we explain the satellite photos? Faked? No.
WMD's did or still do exist. Speculation in Bekaa Valley. I am more inclined than I am disinclined to believe this. And thanks to the Liberals acting like two year olds with their mantra "Bush Lied, nananana", we should have been jointly investigating the mystery of what happened to them.
You are right, and the New York Times is anyone's best source for oxymorons.
"the nyt is either stupid or evil."
Both!
Clearly, the NYT and the LAT are anti-American and anti-military.
The NYT has less credibility than a screen door on a submarine.
And along with the LAT and the Wash Post it's no wonder their circulations are sinking like the Titanic!
I guess the MSM would have felt better about the WMD if a few tens of thousands of Marines & Soldiers had been killed by their use.
Semper Fi,
Kelly
Good article.
Bump.
Russia tied to Iraq's missing arms
By Bill Gertz
THE WASHINGTON TIMES
Published October 28, 2004
Russian special forces troops moved many of Saddam Hussein's weapons and related goods out of Iraq and into Syria in the weeks before the March 2003 U.S. military operation, The Washington Times has learned.
Do you happen to have the link? I'd like to research this myself. TIA.
I absolutely LOVE Hitchens...he's been a slow and thoughtful convert- the opening of his eyes to reality has been fascinating to watch.
As to the newspaper of record...it's a broken record.
<< it's not a whore, it's a slut.
Like most New Yorkers, all of France and what's left of once-great-britain it has an awfully long way to go -- and a snow-ball's chance in Hell of making it -- up the social scale to "Whore."
ping for later read
I left the hard copy at home in my stack of stuff. But I believe I Googled it when I found it in the first place. It's the same report that showed the Iraq SA-2's in the junk yard in Rotterdam.
Exactly! It is in so many other people's interests (UN/Anti-American crowd) to say these weapons were removed after we took Baghdad...when in fact, the amount of time that Bush was demanded to negotiate provided adequate time to remove these weapons.
I'm sorry...but I just can't picture convoys with "tons" of material trekking through Iraq, unmolested, during the war. After all, we are talking about heavy equipment that would've easily been spotted by our survey groups. With a nearly 8-month gap between our warnings to Saddam and the start of this war...there are a lot of materials that could've left Iraq.
I believe that the NYTs may now believe that Saddam did have WMDs; and that they (along with others) are now going to do their best to blame Bush for what they'll call the proliferation of these weapons as they defelct attention from their gross incompetence...which included giving Saddam this additional time.
While I am sure that some material was still being looted during the war...it is beyond belief to think that Saddam wasn't removing material with the several-month warning we gave him. In fact, I'm sure this additional time granted Saddam was a prerequisite from those nations that did business with Saddam...as it gave them time to remove the very evidence that would've tied them to Saddam. Anyone remember the Russians and French who were still in Iraq as the war was just starting? I don't think they were there for Sun and sand.
2 Russian generals given awards in Iraq on war eve
The mission and the reason the generals received the awards were not disclosed in the April 2, 2003, report. However, Gen. Achalov told the newspaper that he "didn't fly to Baghdad to drink coffee."
The comment bolsters the claims of Pentagon officials who say Russian military advisers and special forces units were helping Iraq's military and intelligence services before the Iraq war.
The Pentagon has identified Russia as Iraq's top arms supplier, along with France and China. U.S. military officials have said Russian military suppliers sold Iraq special electronic jammers that were designed to thwart attacks by U.S. satellite-guided joint direct attack munitions, or JDAMs.
The jammers were bombed by the JDAMs, after the global positioning systems satellites signals used to guide them were boosted.
John A. Shaw, deputy undersecretary of defense for international technology security, said this week that two European intelligence services have obtained documentary evidence indicating Russian spetsnaz, or special forces, troops were involved in a covert program to shred documents on Russian arms sales to Iraq, and to move weapons out of the country to Syria, Lebanon and possibly Iran.
The Russians were hired by the Iraqis to protect special Russian weapons and to organize the removal of arms through truck convoys. The Russian special forces troops were working for the GRU military intelligence service and wore civilian clothes, defense officials said.
Rush hit on this yesterday. Hitch was taking notes.
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