Posted on 03/14/2005 8:46:37 AM PST by Rakkasan1
If you are law enforcement type you can probably stop reading now unless you like being reprimanded by a dumb old civilian.
While everyone else is crowing how great the police and feds did in aprehending Brian G. Nichols in Duluth, GA, I am vomitting. I am disgusted. Let me share my thoughts and then see what you think.
Exhibit A: Sheriff's Deputy Cynthia Hall, 51. Slammed up against a wall by Brian Nichols, weapon taken and shot in the face. Brilliant.
Exhibit B: Her superiors. What were they thinking? Leaving someone who looks like she belongs tending day care with a big strapping fellow like Nichols was gross negligence. Frankly I think Deputy Hall was standing on the wrong side of her badge and should never have been in uniform to start with.
Exhibit C: Court security seems to think everyone comes in the front door. Nichols though comes in from behind the bench and shoots Judge Rowland Barnes execution style in the back of the head. He then trains his weapon on court reporter Julie Ann Brandau and slaughters her. The District Attorney cheats death by not being in the court room.
Exhibit D: Sheriff's Deputy Hoyt Teasley, 43 confronts Nichols after Nichols has run down seven flights of stairs and through an alarmed door onto Martin Luther King Blvd. For his efforts he is repeatedly gut shot. At least he made an effort, but in the end he did not rise to the occasion, rather he defaulted to the level of his training. (I forget who said that, not my original words, they are borrowed.)
Exhibit E: A bone headed all day search for a "Green Honda Accord." Entire police agencies waste 14 hours searching for a car that is parked right in the same lot
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And I heard that the police officers had to surrender their weapons in the courthouse. Only the deputies were permitted to carry their weapons.
After the slaughter, the policemen had to LINE UP to retrieve their weapons.
The video monitor of the room where the female deputy was supervising Nichols change from prison attire to civilian clothes is supposed to be monitored by two people at all times. NO ONE was monitoring the video.
If those people had been doing their jobs, NO ONE would have died.
They make Chief Moose look competent.
I will say, from remembering the Rodney King video, it could take a whole lot of men to subdue an out of control maniac.
Exhibit F: U. S. Immigration and Customs Agent David Wilhelm, 40 is shot and his gun, badge and truck taken by Nichols. I guess Wilhelm missed the news reports about a black man with a gun who was on the loose and on a killing spree. He should have had Fox News on instead of that dance mix he liked so much.
Exhibit G: Nichols takes a woman hostage at Bridgewater Apartments in Duluth, GA. For some reason Nichols releases her and she dials 911. The contribution the police make to this effort is to pick up the telephone. Whoopee, great work fellows. A SWAT team (I used to love that TV Show) is dispatched and Nichols waves a white T Shirt in surrender and is arrested without incident. Police try to look busy but basically just are there as a back drop for the helicopter camera. The FBI then hogs the credit by taking Nichols into custody and placing him in a stylish Tahoe SUV for the ride "downtown." Later the Atlanta Police are allowed to share in the credit and get to book Nichols on three murder charges, but Nichols is returned to Federal custody.
It looks to this highly untrained professional that these highly trained professionals did not exactly have a day characterized by competence and good reputation. You see we have long said the cops are second responders, not first responders. The first responders are those under criminal attack and the second responders are the cops who idle on by to take the police report along with the fire department to hose your blood out of the gutter.
What happened here is the cops became the first responders and the results were not like the movies and pro-cop hype would lead you to believe. (Though I expect this will be made into a movie with the cops portrayed as heroic instead of as criminally incompetent.)
About all the good the police did was to serve as target practice for Nichols and attend photo-op press briefings. Sure would have been nice if some dumb old civilian had a gun handy. But being close to the court house that was prohibited so the police got killed by their own policy of not trusting civilians and Nichols made an easy escape.
Don't get me wrong. Nichols needs killing and he'll get it after more than one fair trial. No sir, my point isn't to praise Nichols. He's one deranged lunatic who will be a hero in prison right up until they put the 220V jumper cables on him and light him up.
My point is that as a citizen it is up to you to be prepared. If you are relying on dialing 911 or the happenstance of a cop being present when you are attacked then you just best plan on having your brains splattered all over the kitchen wall. When push came to shove the cops just didn't pack the gear. It was civilians in Atlanta that did the work to bring Nichols to justice despite all the ineptness and incompetence the various police agencies were able to bring to bear on the situation.
Well, I've said my piece. Let's hear yours.
Posted By John Birch, President, Concealed Carry, Inc. Comments welcome: john@concealcarry.org
Imagine if everyone in the Courthouse had not had their Second Amendment rights infringed and if all of them were armed.
Nichols might have still shot the Deputy and the Judge, but the people in the courtroom would've wasted him.
Americans are safer when criminals don't know who's armed.
Since we've moved to the south, we're amazed at how few break-ins there are. But it seems the criminal element knows that even breaking a window in a house is liable to get them killed. They are all armed down here!
Good points, but Birch sure blew it in Exhibit A. The female deputy was not shot, she was severely beaten.
My thoughts are this. Women's groups tell us daily they can do anything a man can. Pity the petite deputy, but she was not shot, she was badly beaten. Also much has been made of a female being put into that situation. If women can not walk the walk, then do not talk the talk, as shown, such talk has now gotten several people killed.
My wife of many years is a deadly shot, but in a physical altercation, she would not stand a chance with a determined Micky Mouse.
Any department that doesn't require them any time an officer is in uniform ought to be disbanded, and if he was disobeying regs, then the department needs a complete overhaul.
So9
There is no way, if this is made into a movie, that the police can be protrayed as competent.
!!!!!!!!WARNING THE FOLLOWING IS PURE CYNICISM SO IF YOU DON"T WANT TO HEAR CYNICISM STOP READING!!!!!!!!
Oh but the spin for poo witto cwiminal Bwian has already begun--thanks to the coverage of the admittedly brave hostage who has offered the monster up for sainthood or at least for beatification!!! And as one FReeper stated: except for the "God stuff" they will soon be making a movie about it.
With my cynicism in maximum overdrive, I expect the two lovebirds to announce their pending prison marriage, rejoicing in the happiness they feel in bearing his lovechild. They will name their spawn after the judge, to show how "weewee, weewee sowwy" Bwian is, and how much he cares about his redemption.
And the second part of my disgust will kick in when I hear the umpteenth mention about how everyone deserves redemption! PUKE!!!!!!!
As long as our society subscribes to the myth that any woman can do any man's job, inocent people will be sacrificed on the altar of gender 'equity'.
I thought, according to some doc at the hospital presser, that Deputy Hall had been shot in the face?
Ah great. More good ol' police bashing again.
Heard the guy's rape trial lawyer today. His first trial was a mistrial. Second trial was 8-4 against convicting. Looks like he was going to get off. Now, why would a guy who was about to get off do this?
As in all cases like this, second guessing is just stupid.
I'm not sure why but I know for sure this guy is a nut case. Pure and simple. It's his fault, not the police.
This person is right on. I live just north of Atlanta, (just over the border from Duluth, in fact) and I am apalled at the incompetence shown by the "authorities" in this case. I can't imagine how this person was allowed so much free reign to do what he did, especially when he was known to be a violent offender, and I have heard that he tried, that morning, to smuggle a homemade knife into the courthouse in his shoe. HELLO!!!! I am also incredulous that the other armed deputies in the courthouse didn't use their own guns to take him down once he became violent. What is the matter with them? What the heck are the guns for, anyway? And what on earth would possess them to disarm policemen? IDIOTS!
I served on jury duty in that same courthouse just a few months ago. This whole story is just hair-raising. Thank you for posting this article.
Instead of going where trouble was no longer - they should have been fanning out to watch exits from the city the murderer could take. Like maybe Marta stations?
Being PC just cost more unnecessary loss of lives.
It just takes one average sized armed officer to stop King Kong.
So9
If one believes in the Bible - there is an afterlife that is more important than life here on earth. Christ died for all of us so we could live forever with him. But we can only accept his offer while we're still alive.
The woman who helped this murderer was playing with an eternal set of rules.
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