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Political correctness: From bad joke to tragic tale -- PC crowd removes cuffs from criminals
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | Monday, March 14, 2005 | Doug Powers

Posted on 03/14/2005 2:58:53 AM PST by JohnHuang2

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To: Elkiejg
I wondered how long it would take to connect the stupid PC dots on this story.

I, and other conservative people who live in the REAL world, and not some liberal La-La Land, connected the dots early on, in previous posts following the savage's violent attacks, murders, and escape.

If you are speaking of ANYONE in the mainstream media (Worldnetdaily.com doesn't qualify) connecting those same dots, it ain't gonna happen. They KNOW what the truth is, but they don't want it to get out, 'cause that would mean real, substantive, negative (for them) changes for the people they so admire - (BARF ALERT) the poor, downtrodden, misunderstood minority "suspects" in our unjust prison system, who just need one more chance.

21 posted on 03/14/2005 3:39:58 AM PST by DocH (Gun-grabbers, you can HAVE my guns... lead first.)
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To: Teplukin

Call me a liberal, I have come to the conclusion that because he wasn't handcuffed it caused 4 peoples death. Case closed.


22 posted on 03/14/2005 3:40:38 AM PST by John Lenin (Abortion has created lots of atheists because no one wants to go to hell)
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To: John Lenin
have come to the conclusion that because he wasn't handcuffed it caused 4 peoples death. Case closed.

Yup. So why wan't he handcuffed?

23 posted on 03/14/2005 3:43:17 AM PST by Teplukin
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To: Teplukin
Here's your answer:

Why wasn't he wearing handcuffs? Because "studies" have shown that jurors are "unfairly influenced" when a person on trial is wearing handcuffs. The "study," it can be safely assumed, was conducted by somebody who doesn't have to sit anywhere near defendants in rape and murder trials.
24 posted on 03/14/2005 3:46:06 AM PST by John Lenin (Abortion has created lots of atheists because no one wants to go to hell)
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To: Teplukin
You seem to be an enemy of common sense. That was the point of the article you criticized: Common sense and sound judgment are twisted into knots by people who have ideological agenda [often called "politically correct"--but I feel even this name is allows the mindlessness to persist. There is nothing correct about this tendency in modern life. It is a marxist tendency and "politically correct" is a marxist term--though few know that at this point.

There are enough facts in in order to exercise sound judgment. Facts: He was released from his handcuffs in order to get dressed when a single armed woman was not enough to prevent him from overpowering her and taking her weapon. That is the fact.

Your insistence on suspending judgment indicates that you have some other motive than exercising sound opinion of a citizen. The tyrrany of expertism makes citizens believe that they shhould not have opinions on ordinary things that are not as complex as claimed. You are wittingly or unwittingly feeding that tyrrany.

25 posted on 03/14/2005 3:49:19 AM PST by ontos-on
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To: greene2

No sacasm can be so broad that somebody at FR will not take you seriously...


26 posted on 03/14/2005 4:11:00 AM PST by gridlock (ELIMINATE PERVERSE INCENTIVES)
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To: JohnHuang2
If liberal judges get killed as a result of their own stupidity, its their problem. Quite frankly when judges stop being stupid... they will stop being killed. Its that simple. Again I ask, what has become of common sense in America? Even liberals can't be THAT stupid!

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
27 posted on 03/14/2005 4:20:22 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Teplukin

The guy was caught with two homemade knives the day before...it is truly pc politics. Also, Fulton County police dept is very badly run.


28 posted on 03/14/2005 4:20:54 AM PST by bronxboy (Blessed to live in the USA)
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To: Teplukin

I think you mis-read this.

Lack of handcuffs was the the major contributing factor to this crime. 4 people are dead from PC.

There is no need for an investigation to come to this conclusion.


29 posted on 03/14/2005 4:25:53 AM PST by m87339 (If you could see what a drag it is to see you.)
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To: John Lenin

If a juror saw the defendant in hand cuffs it would have been a mistrial.


30 posted on 03/14/2005 4:37:24 AM PST by OldFriend ("If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child might have peace." Thomas Paine)
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To: Carolinamom
Miss Ashley reporting that Nichols told her he did NOT shoot the guard, he pushed her hard.

Some freepers suspected she was not shot and wondered if she was in on his escape.

My suspicion is that his attorney suggested he use that story about the juror seeing him in handcuffs as a way to push for another mistrial.

31 posted on 03/14/2005 4:39:29 AM PST by OldFriend ("If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child might have peace." Thomas Paine)
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To: OldFriend
Uh huh. They presume he's guilty so they will automatically convict him in their minds. Judges have a low estimate for the intelligence of jurors.

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
32 posted on 03/14/2005 4:40:41 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: OldFriend

That is the problem ! Moronic PC liberalism just killed 4 innocent people. If your lawyer can't overcome the jury seeing you in handcuffs when you are brought into the courtroom on a good defense presentation, you either have a terrible lawyer or are probably guilty. I don't buy that study not one bit, if anything people might feel sorry for you more if they think you are innocent.


33 posted on 03/14/2005 4:42:56 AM PST by John Lenin (Abortion has created lots of atheists because no one wants to go to hell)
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To: Teplukin

I worked for Dept of Corrections here in Northern Louisiana from 1992-1997.

For most of that time, I was a transport officer. We took inmates to court on a very frequent basis. It was standard practice to remove cuffs prior to taking an inmate into the courtroom.

This was in a very rural parish (county) and there was always 2 officers that carried inmates to court. Of course, everyon in the courtroom knew, just by seeing 2 armed uniformed officers there, the guy standing there was an already sentenced to state prison time and was back for a 2nd helping.

There are some other ways for helping restrain the inmate. One is to make the inmate wear a leg brace on 1 leg under his jeans. This will prevent him from running, but just like Chester on Gunsmoke, he can still move pretty fast with the right incentive.

Sun technologies make a "stun belt". This device is placed on the inmate and has a 50K volt power pak that fits over his right kidney. It is activated by remote control and gives him an 8 second ride of his life. But you have to check his medical record and have the Dr. authorize that this device be placed on him.

One thing that never made sense to me (among many others) all inmates in the state of Louisiana have their name and doc # stenciled on both legs of their jeans and on the back of their shirt. We would have to take his cuffs off, but everyone could easily see that he was already in prison.


34 posted on 03/14/2005 4:44:23 AM PST by cajun-jack
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To: cajun-jack

Thanks cajun - yours is best post on this thread - much appreciate your input.

In your professional opininion, if these standards had been followed in Atlanta, could this monster had broken free?


35 posted on 03/14/2005 4:49:42 AM PST by Teplukin
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To: cajun-jack
Don't worry it sounds like they have already decided to disarm the cops bringing in defendants, leaving them totally helpless when some psycho grabs them by the throat.
36 posted on 03/14/2005 4:54:19 AM PST by John Lenin (Abortion has created lots of atheists because no one wants to go to hell)
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To: gridlock
If that Deputy had not had a gun, none of this would have happened

The same could also be said if everyone had a gun; none of this would have happened.

37 posted on 03/14/2005 5:15:47 AM PST by MosesKnows
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To: Elkiejg

Handcuffs are not the reason Nichols was able to wreak such havoc. It was because he was guarded by a woman bailiff. Period.


38 posted on 03/14/2005 5:17:48 AM PST by montag813
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To: Teplukin

People on trial should be handcuffed. And legcuffed, if called for. I like the cage approach that so many countries use in their court system...you know, where the defendant/s sit in a big cage during the trial.


39 posted on 03/14/2005 5:32:03 AM PST by aaronbeth (Our freedom was won from the barrel of a gun.)
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To: Teplukin

yes, it is quite possible that he could have. You have to look on Corrections Officers in much the same light as most of today's police officers.

Many are on the lower IQ plane and either get so complacent with such a repetitious and boring job that in many instances, they should just give the inmate a vehicle and send him to court on his own, or they are so gung ho, they make stupid mistakes with their know it all attitude that they get someone hurt or killed.

Also, the American with Disabilities Act is a big detriment in an awful lot of assigned duties. They will put a 60 year old woman with enphezema doing a job that should be assigned to a 20-30 year old man.


40 posted on 03/14/2005 5:32:56 AM PST by cajun-jack
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