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To: zeppenwolf
But it's time for some of you pro-life extremists...

Yeah, you're going to make a lot of headway calling the overwhelming majority of the Republican party extremists.

Fact is, if Condi's the nominee, we lose. Pro abort Republicans cannot win national elections. Evangelicals will stay home in droves. You can talk about the politcs of it all until you're blue in the face.... they're still going to stay home.

Nominating Condi is suicide, IMO.

30 posted on 03/12/2005 5:41:29 PM PST by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard; zeppenwolf
I agree with WPTG that calling mainstream conservatives necessary for a Republican victory extremists will not win you needed support for the candidate of your choice, if that is your intention.

I disagree with you, WPTG, that Condi's posistion on abortion as stated so far is at odds with pro-Lifers.

IF she is a strong state's rights proponent (would seem so but further clarification needed), against partial birth, for parental notification, against government funding of abortions, believes abortion shouldn't be encouraged...well, it's certainly an issue worth debate. In essence we'd be on the same side, if not necessarily entirely same personal view.

35 posted on 03/12/2005 5:50:18 PM PST by Soul Seeker
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard

"Yeah, you're going to make a lot of headway calling the overwhelming majority of the Republican party extremists."

You guys need some reading skills and/or a thicker skin.

When I used the phrase "pro-life extremists" you could infer either that:

A) all people who are "pro-life" are "extreme"

B) there are *some* people in the set of "pro-life" people who are "extreme", and I'm referring to that proper subset.

The very fact that you jump to inference A) is exactly the kind of problem I'm talking about. In fact, I don't think it's even reasonable, in the context of a Republican oriented site, to do anything other than infer B).

I have *seen* the kind of people I'm talking about here before-- possibly I'm talking about you two, in fact-- people who say "if he's not pro-life, then I don't care if he is Republican-- he has to go". THAT is the problem.

"You" guys-- the ones willing to fracture the Republican party over ideological purity-- are the people I'm talking about.

In case there's still any confusion, I am NOT saying that to be "pro-life" is to be "extreme". For God's sake, peeps. I am saying that you don't influence policy by losing elections-- you don't serve "our" best interest by fracturing the *majority* over *one issue*. I am saying that if "rare but legal" is not good enough for you, then it damn well should be, or you're not helping reduce the number of abortions if Condi is willing to run. OK?


72 posted on 03/12/2005 8:17:46 PM PST by zeppenwolf
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard

Nominating Condi is very likely suicide --- for racial reasons as well as the abortion issue. I think, however, that a semi -pro -abortion candidate could, if need be, couch their position on abortion in purely legal terminology and likewise find success as a republican candidate.

What worries me more is the unlikely prospect that America will elect a black president at this point in time.


81 posted on 03/12/2005 9:47:53 PM PST by Cosmo (Now accepting donations)
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard

Condi Rice has the best bead on the abortion issue I've seen articulated yet.

The *only* thing left for her to do is to remand the issue back to the states *after* she's been elected President and then selected as Chief Justice of Supreme Court.


106 posted on 03/13/2005 9:04:08 AM PST by Maelstrom (To prevent misinterpretation or abuse of the Constitution:The Bill of Rights limits government power)
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