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Rice fuels rumours that it’s Condi v Hillary in 2008
The Sunday Times ^ | March 13, 2005 | Tony Allen-Mills

Posted on 03/12/2005 4:43:56 PM PST by MadIvan

WASHINGTON is suddenly agog at the prospect of President Condi. A flurry of speculation about the political ambitions of Condoleezza Rice was ignited yesterday when the US secretary of state took a first step towards wooing conservative Republican voters.

Asked in a newspaper interview to comment on widespread speculation that she might stand as the Republican candidate for the White House in 2008, Rice not only declined to rule out a run; she went on to discuss an unusual subject for a secretary of state — the rights and wrongs of abortion.

Rice was careful to avoid any suggestion that she is actively planning a campaign. But Washington pundits seized on her unexpectedly ambivalent responses as evidence that a dream contest is materialising for 2008: Rice v Hillary Clinton, an all-woman battle for the most powerful job in the world.

When the subject was first broached by the Washington Times reporter, Rice replied with a brush-off. “I never wanted to run for anything,” she said. “I have enormous respect for people who do run for office. It’s really hard for me to imagine myself in that role.”

She was pressed on whether she was prepared to repeat the famous denial of General William T Sherman, who said in 1884: “If nominated, I will not run; if elected I will not serve.”

Rice replied with a chuckle: “That’s not fair . . . I really can’t imagine it.”

Had she stopped there, many in Washington might not have paid too much attention. But even though President George W Bush has barely begun his second term, Republicans are painfully aware that he has no obvious successor.

The race has begun for various senators and governors who are already nosing around New Hampshire — the scene of early voting — in the hope of staking a claim to Bush’s majority. The first thing they must do to impress conservative voters is establish their views on abortion.

In a striking departure from her preoccupations with the Middle East and Iran, Rice talked about how she approaches an “extremely difficult moral issue” as “a deeply religious person”.

Rice admitted to being “mildly pro-choice” (in favour of a woman’s right to choose) — a position that for some right-wing voters will disqualify her immediately. But she emphasised that abortion should be “as rare a circumstance as possible”. She also argued that the government should not pay for abortions “because I believe those who hold a strong moral view on the other side should not be forced to fund it”.

Rice insisted that her remarks should not be misinterpreted: “I’m not trying to be elected.” But they are certain to be seized on by an army of admirers who have established websites seeking a Rice candidacy in 2008. “Our lady’s got the buzz,” proclaimed the weblog CondiPundit.

Washington analysts have long been divided over Rice’s chances. Some Republicans argue that she should first return to California and challenge a Democratic senator to gain campaign experience. She had a chance to run for governor two years ago, but yielded to Arnold Schwarzenegger.

Her supporters see her as an American Margaret Thatcher, ready to confound convention and become America’s first woman president. Dick Morris, the former Bill Clinton aide who has become an outspoken critic of Hillary Clinton, recently argued that Rice had become a “Republican rock star . . . her every movement covered by an adoring media”.

Rice took Europe by storm on her recent tour. If she pulls off a breakthrough in the Middle East peace process, Morris argued, a Rice candidacy could destroy the Democratic party’s electoral chances.

Harder-nosed analysts suggest that her political inexperience is too big a drawback, especially when pitted against the masterful manoeuvring of the Clintons.

Larry Sabato, director of the University of Virginia’s Centre for Politics, said that the two women were in different leagues. Compared with the Clinton steamroller, the Rice candidacy was “cotton candy fluff”, he said.

Yet Rice has one card up her sleeve. She is a close friend of the president, whose endorsement could prove decisive. Bush recently joked that “if I catch her thinking that way (about becoming president), I’m going to remind her that I picked her to be secretary of state”. If she does well he may need to promote her.


TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: condi; condoleezza; election08; hillary; president; rice; rice2008
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To: zook
Waaaaaaa!

RINOs in the minority and they just can't stand it....

101 posted on 03/13/2005 8:59:08 AM PST by Lurking2Long
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To: MadIvan
Anyone who describes her faith as "deeply" important and then refuses to be guided by it, on a matter as clearly evil as abortion, doesn't get my vote. Maybe she will mature as a Christian and as a politician, but I tend to be optimistic.

Condi nominated on the Republican ticket spells a split that will keep Republicans out of the White House. There is simply no way that Dobson, Falwell, Robertson and the rest will be able to mobilize the evangelical vote if she maintains this position.
102 posted on 03/13/2005 8:59:22 AM PST by farmer18th
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To: zeppenwolf
"You" guys-- the ones willing to fracture the Republican party over ideological purity...

It is you RINOs who are seeking to fracture the party over ideological purity...we "extremists" were here first!

103 posted on 03/13/2005 9:00:58 AM PST by Lurking2Long
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To: Vote 4 Nixon

It's time to grow up and look beyond petty sexist differences.

She's done a wonderful job in positions of executive power.


104 posted on 03/13/2005 9:01:22 AM PST by Maelstrom (To prevent misinterpretation or abuse of the Constitution:The Bill of Rights limits government power)
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To: Cicero
I'm afraid I feel obliged to say again that her announcing in the context of running for the presidency that she is "moderately pro-choice" simply disqualifies her. Period.

A hearty amen. Are the RINOS ready for Evangelicals and Catholics to stay home?
105 posted on 03/13/2005 9:03:08 AM PST by farmer18th
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard

Condi Rice has the best bead on the abortion issue I've seen articulated yet.

The *only* thing left for her to do is to remand the issue back to the states *after* she's been elected President and then selected as Chief Justice of Supreme Court.


106 posted on 03/13/2005 9:04:08 AM PST by Maelstrom (To prevent misinterpretation or abuse of the Constitution:The Bill of Rights limits government power)
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To: Maelstrom
She's done a wonderful job in positions of executive power.

The folks who say elections are about competence and not ideology lose. Ask Michael Dukakis.
107 posted on 03/13/2005 9:05:04 AM PST by farmer18th
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To: farmer18th

The President no longer has a say on the issue. See to your Supreme Court and go after them on your single issue disqualification.

You'd prefer Gore to Bush as Bush's stance is farther pro-choice than Rice's.

Hell...so was Reagan's prior to his election.


108 posted on 03/13/2005 9:06:25 AM PST by Maelstrom (To prevent misinterpretation or abuse of the Constitution:The Bill of Rights limits government power)
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To: farmer18th

Michael Dukakis had a bad ideology, Condi Rice does not have that ideology.

Hers is quite satisfactorily conservative.

Condoleeza Rice is more conservative than George W Bush...and that makes her a "far right" candidate with respect to his father.


109 posted on 03/13/2005 9:08:27 AM PST by Maelstrom (To prevent misinterpretation or abuse of the Constitution:The Bill of Rights limits government power)
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To: zook
They're not going to vote Dem, and 89% won't stay home. Those that do will be offset by the surge of moderate black and women voters thrilled to finally have a winner on the presidential ticket

You are articulating a losing argument both on principle and on pragmatism. Geraldino Ferraro didn't push Walter Mondale into office. If you think the American moderate center is stupid enough to be wooed by labels like "black woman centrist," you are saying that people will buy mustard if you put a catsup label on it. The issues will come out, and the American people are beginning to vote values. Condi is too immature on the values front to get that vote, and without it, she will lose.
110 posted on 03/13/2005 9:12:26 AM PST by farmer18th
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To: Maelstrom
The President no longer has a say on the issue. See to your Supreme Court and go after them on your single issue disqualification

Only someone totally abandoned to principle, and to history, could argue that, but if you look at Scalia, or O'Connor, for that matter, you might get an inkling how much the president has to say about the issue.
111 posted on 03/13/2005 9:14:36 AM PST by farmer18th
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To: Maelstrom
Hers is quite satisfactorily conservative.

Kindly explain to me how "mildly pro-choice" means conservative?
112 posted on 03/13/2005 9:21:15 AM PST by farmer18th
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To: Maelstrom
Condi Rice has the best bead on the abortion issue I've seen articulated yet.

Her "bead" on abortion: government shouldn't have a role in it. Well, not quite. Partial birth abortion is bad. Outlaw that. Let parents know about it. Make that a law. Put a little dash of government there.

It doesn't sound like the position of a principled person, or a person who has ever actually seen the results of an abortion. It sounds like the position of a survey taker.
113 posted on 03/13/2005 9:26:31 AM PST by farmer18th
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To: MadIvan
Not going to happen. Lets be real here. Do Americans really want Hillary the lesbian ( or whatever she is) sleezy ex lawyer socialist as president.

Condi is smart but does not have all the components to be prez. For one she is single and has never really governed.

There may be back room deals being made but I don't think the American public are going to buy a woman as prez at this time.

114 posted on 03/13/2005 9:32:37 AM PST by jetson (throne)
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To: exit82

http://www.americansforrice.com/


115 posted on 03/13/2005 9:36:12 AM PST by Rakkasan1 (Keep capitol punishment safe,legal , and rare...)
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To: zook
The conservative "purist" death wish strikes again!

Not this time. Ever wonder why Pete Wilson disappeared? Ever wonder why Hillary Clinton is making soothing clucks in the direction of the pro-life lobby? Ever wonder why the Democrats put a Mormon "values" guy at the head of the minority in the senate?

Republican economic conservatives, who don't understand why middle America is tired of paying for the abort and divorce culture, are really closer to John Kerry and Barbara Boxer on this issue, and they are going to be surprised by it, if they think they can hold a coalition together without pro-lifers.

George Bush didn't use the "sanctity of life" rhetoric by accident.
116 posted on 03/13/2005 9:39:51 AM PST by farmer18th
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To: MadIvan
Qualifications:

Black, woman, Republican (in your liberal face, unique)

White, woman, liberal, former first lady.

If Rice is the best the party can do, or if those two are the best we can hope for, we're in big trouble.

117 posted on 03/13/2005 9:40:04 AM PST by lewislynn (My other car is an XC90 T6 AWD....)
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran
Never forget that the MSM will be for any Republican that they think will lose to a democRAT.

Condi would DESTROY Hillary is they get into the ring together.

118 posted on 03/13/2005 9:43:39 AM PST by Centurion2000 (Nations do not survive by setting examples for others. Nations survive by making examples of others)
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To: lewislynn
If Rice is the best the party can do, or if those two are the best we can hope for, we're in big trouble.

Amen. These are trial baloons that will come down on the heads of the RINOS in flaming scraps of burning dacron. I wish all these folks would go over to FreeRINO.com. This is freerepublic.com.
119 posted on 03/13/2005 9:44:22 AM PST by farmer18th
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To: Centurion2000

You think a person who has never run for any office would have a chance against a dirty trick master.
BTW, the man who was too lazy to fail was my favorite in time enough for love.


120 posted on 03/13/2005 10:20:52 AM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (When you compromise with evil, evil wins. AYN RAND)
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