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Rice fuels rumours that it’s Condi v Hillary in 2008
The Sunday Times ^ | March 13, 2005 | Tony Allen-Mills

Posted on 03/12/2005 4:43:56 PM PST by MadIvan

WASHINGTON is suddenly agog at the prospect of President Condi. A flurry of speculation about the political ambitions of Condoleezza Rice was ignited yesterday when the US secretary of state took a first step towards wooing conservative Republican voters.

Asked in a newspaper interview to comment on widespread speculation that she might stand as the Republican candidate for the White House in 2008, Rice not only declined to rule out a run; she went on to discuss an unusual subject for a secretary of state — the rights and wrongs of abortion.

Rice was careful to avoid any suggestion that she is actively planning a campaign. But Washington pundits seized on her unexpectedly ambivalent responses as evidence that a dream contest is materialising for 2008: Rice v Hillary Clinton, an all-woman battle for the most powerful job in the world.

When the subject was first broached by the Washington Times reporter, Rice replied with a brush-off. “I never wanted to run for anything,” she said. “I have enormous respect for people who do run for office. It’s really hard for me to imagine myself in that role.”

She was pressed on whether she was prepared to repeat the famous denial of General William T Sherman, who said in 1884: “If nominated, I will not run; if elected I will not serve.”

Rice replied with a chuckle: “That’s not fair . . . I really can’t imagine it.”

Had she stopped there, many in Washington might not have paid too much attention. But even though President George W Bush has barely begun his second term, Republicans are painfully aware that he has no obvious successor.

The race has begun for various senators and governors who are already nosing around New Hampshire — the scene of early voting — in the hope of staking a claim to Bush’s majority. The first thing they must do to impress conservative voters is establish their views on abortion.

In a striking departure from her preoccupations with the Middle East and Iran, Rice talked about how she approaches an “extremely difficult moral issue” as “a deeply religious person”.

Rice admitted to being “mildly pro-choice” (in favour of a woman’s right to choose) — a position that for some right-wing voters will disqualify her immediately. But she emphasised that abortion should be “as rare a circumstance as possible”. She also argued that the government should not pay for abortions “because I believe those who hold a strong moral view on the other side should not be forced to fund it”.

Rice insisted that her remarks should not be misinterpreted: “I’m not trying to be elected.” But they are certain to be seized on by an army of admirers who have established websites seeking a Rice candidacy in 2008. “Our lady’s got the buzz,” proclaimed the weblog CondiPundit.

Washington analysts have long been divided over Rice’s chances. Some Republicans argue that she should first return to California and challenge a Democratic senator to gain campaign experience. She had a chance to run for governor two years ago, but yielded to Arnold Schwarzenegger.

Her supporters see her as an American Margaret Thatcher, ready to confound convention and become America’s first woman president. Dick Morris, the former Bill Clinton aide who has become an outspoken critic of Hillary Clinton, recently argued that Rice had become a “Republican rock star . . . her every movement covered by an adoring media”.

Rice took Europe by storm on her recent tour. If she pulls off a breakthrough in the Middle East peace process, Morris argued, a Rice candidacy could destroy the Democratic party’s electoral chances.

Harder-nosed analysts suggest that her political inexperience is too big a drawback, especially when pitted against the masterful manoeuvring of the Clintons.

Larry Sabato, director of the University of Virginia’s Centre for Politics, said that the two women were in different leagues. Compared with the Clinton steamroller, the Rice candidacy was “cotton candy fluff”, he said.

Yet Rice has one card up her sleeve. She is a close friend of the president, whose endorsement could prove decisive. Bush recently joked that “if I catch her thinking that way (about becoming president), I’m going to remind her that I picked her to be secretary of state”. If she does well he may need to promote her.


TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: condi; condoleezza; election08; hillary; president; rice; rice2008
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Interesting.

Regards, Ivan


1 posted on 03/12/2005 4:43:56 PM PST by MadIvan
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To: LadyofShalott; Tolik; mtngrl@vrwc; pax_et_bonum; Alkhin; agrace; EggsAckley; dinasour; ...

Ping!


2 posted on 03/12/2005 4:44:12 PM PST by MadIvan (One blog to bring them all...and in the Darkness bind them: http://www.theringwraith.com/)
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To: MadIvan

Anyone able to confirm that W's nickname for Condi is 44?


3 posted on 03/12/2005 4:46:29 PM PST by peyton randolph (Warning! It is illegal to fatwah a camel in all 50 states)
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To: MadIvan

If she's nominated, she has my vote. But it's way too early to be talking about 2008. Bush has just started his 2nd term and there is an election next year to prepare for.


4 posted on 03/12/2005 4:47:52 PM PST by West Coast Conservative
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To: MadIvan

Beware the Hillary trap: Republicans nominate Condi and then the Dems nominate Evan Bayh instead of Hillary. Condi might have a tough time beating Bayh (or somebody like him).


5 posted on 03/12/2005 4:52:57 PM PST by snarks_when_bored
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To: West Coast Conservative

Anyone but Hildebeast.


6 posted on 03/12/2005 4:53:27 PM PST by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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To: billorites

Condi has my vote!


7 posted on 03/12/2005 4:55:19 PM PST by Temple Owl (19064)
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To: snarks_when_bored

Yes, but I'd be prepared to stomach a President Bayh before risking President Hillary.


8 posted on 03/12/2005 4:57:30 PM PST by marsh_of_mists
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To: MadIvan

condi's got my vote.


9 posted on 03/12/2005 4:57:54 PM PST by ken21 ( today's luxury development. tomorrow's slum.)
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To: marsh_of_mists

No argument from me on that score!


10 posted on 03/12/2005 4:58:23 PM PST by snarks_when_bored
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To: MadIvan

Put me in Condi's corner.

Please!!!!!


11 posted on 03/12/2005 5:02:01 PM PST by exit82 (You see, I've been to the desert on a horse with no name-then I found FreeRepublic.)
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To: snarks_when_bored

Excellent-- she, and she alone, is what we need to defeat She-Who-Will-Not-Be-Named.

"Rice admitted to being “mildly pro-choice” (in favour of a woman’s right to choose) — a position that for some right-wing voters will disqualify her immediately."

That's right. But it's time for some of you pro-life extremists to understand that you don't influence anything without being in the majority party. Get on the bus, stay on the bus, push your ideology AFTER the election.

snarks: "Republicans nominate Condi and then the Dems nominate Evan Bayh instead of Hillary"

Nonsense. Dems nominate WHO?!? The Dems have already nominated She-Who'... please. If I turn out to be wrong, I will publicly apologize to snarks and then I will EAT my website. The nomination of She-Who' in 08 is just about the most ineluctable force in the history of politics. For pete's sake, she's already a "moderate"!!


12 posted on 03/12/2005 5:03:51 PM PST by zeppenwolf
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To: zeppenwolf

Hey, I think you're probably right that Hillary is the nominee-apparent of the Dems. But if some of the leaders of the party were to find a brain, they might have the sudden inspiration to use Hillary as the stalking horse for Bayh. And then the Dems might suddenly find themselves back in the White House again (shudder).


13 posted on 03/12/2005 5:13:00 PM PST by snarks_when_bored
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To: snarks_when_bored
WHAADDAYUH NUTS?
Evan Bayh is such a disingenuous "pansy" You'd have to be lacking in several common "faculties" to vote for that BLINKER!
14 posted on 03/12/2005 5:14:44 PM PST by acapesket (never had a vote count in all my years here)
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To: snarks_when_bored

Hillary's running.
Read her press releases since November 6.
She's a moderate, don't you know? /sarcasm


15 posted on 03/12/2005 5:15:06 PM PST by mabelkitty (Blackwell for Governor in 2006!!!)
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To: MadIvan

16 posted on 03/12/2005 5:15:29 PM PST by Eastbound
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To: zeppenwolf

Once the Supreme Court is secure, they will no longer be relevant.


17 posted on 03/12/2005 5:16:19 PM PST by mabelkitty (Blackwell for Governor in 2006!!!)
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To: acapesket

I wouldn't vote for him, but almost all Democrats would and quite a few Republicans might.


18 posted on 03/12/2005 5:16:20 PM PST by snarks_when_bored
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To: MadIvan

Way too early to tell how this will turn out. One thought, why not have her run for VP? Problem is, Hillary was elected to the Senate, so she has been through a campaign. America may be more ready to elect a woman as VP than for president. All that said, she is definitely in the top 10 of my list for who I'd want to represent us as a nation.


19 posted on 03/12/2005 5:20:15 PM PST by farfromhome (The UN, always looking for kids. I mean looking out for kids.)
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To: MadIvan

"Condi" good!


20 posted on 03/12/2005 5:21:10 PM PST by AEMILIUS PAULUS (Further, the statement assumed)
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