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Here Comes the Mother-to-Be
NY Times ^ | 3.13.2005 | Mireya Navarro

Posted on 03/12/2005 2:53:11 PM PST by NYC GOP Chick

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To: NYC GOP Chick

It is rather old-fashioned; nowadays the norm becomes getting married after the second child.


41 posted on 03/12/2005 3:44:49 PM PST by GSlob
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To: SuziQ
From the article, it sounds as though most of these couples have been playing house for a while anyway, even though it doesn't prepare them for true commitment

My wife and I "played house" for more than a year before we were married (though we were engaged at the time). It gave us a chance to work on and out a lot of things together -- financial thoughts, parenting styles, shopping together, dealing with friends (troublesome and otherwise). I think our marriage has been been smoother and worked better for it.

42 posted on 03/12/2005 3:46:25 PM PST by Celtjew Libertarian (Shake Hands with the Serpent: Poetry by Charles Lipsig aka Celtjew http://books.lulu.com/lipsig)
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To: stopem
so many preggie stars who take pix of their bare bellys. Like someone really wants to see that.

I like it.

43 posted on 03/12/2005 3:47:04 PM PST by Celtjew Libertarian (Shake Hands with the Serpent: Poetry by Charles Lipsig aka Celtjew http://books.lulu.com/lipsig)
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To: SuziQ
with a baby on the way, she's not entering into the Sacrament freely and without encumbrance. Shotgun weddings are NOT valid

Not being Catholic, I may be wrong about this - but what if the couple was already engaged but moved up the wedding to take care of the surprise? I've had discussions with fellow, um, children who were guests at their parents' weddings and we all agree, we're glad they got married then and didn't wait... every couple I know who started off that way, would never say their marriage is less valid than anyone else's.

My mother always said that first babies come whenever they want, second babies take nine months. But I don't think if I were in that sort of spot, I'd be wearing a dress to show off.... come on, it doesn't take that long to plan a wedding, you can do it before the baby's showing.

44 posted on 03/12/2005 3:48:28 PM PST by JenB
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To: mlmr

You know... it takes two to tango. If people don't want kids maybe listening to the Catholic Church ain't such a good idea and using birth control is.


45 posted on 03/12/2005 3:48:50 PM PST by marajade
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To: exnavychick
Sure, sometimes it bothers me that I didn't have a fairytale type wedding,

Throw a big fancy party for your 10th anniversary and let your parents foot the bill if they had planned to do so for your wedding! You could get a gorgeous ivory cocktail length dress, if you didn't want to wear a long white one!

After this amount of time, you've really got something to celebrate!!

We're thinking of throwing a big shindig this fall for our 30th, though we might wait until 2006, when the addition to our house is at least enclosed, and we'd have some room for folks! ;o)

46 posted on 03/12/2005 3:49:34 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: kstewskis

What are you saying? That most men don't know how to use the word "NO"?


47 posted on 03/12/2005 3:51:39 PM PST by marajade
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To: marajade

LOL!


48 posted on 03/12/2005 3:53:31 PM PST by kstewskis ("Tolerance is what happens when one loses their principles"....Fr. A Saenz.)
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To: cyborg

You summarized things very well. These women are FLAUNTING the fact that they're pregnant and walking down the aisle. They are expecting that all the invitees to their wedding will be accepting of their premarital sex and will be happy to "celebrate" the pregnancy and then the wedding, in that order.

But God calls sex outside of marriage a sin (fornication). I am not perfect either, lest anyone criticize me. But I think these people are just mocking God by going against His rules and then asking for His blessing, knowing full well that He is not pleased.


49 posted on 03/12/2005 3:53:52 PM PST by Joann37
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To: kstewskis

And why on earth would any woman with any sense to boot want to marry a man like that?


50 posted on 03/12/2005 3:55:14 PM PST by marajade
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To: Joann37

Well gee... what's the alternative? To abort the baby? To raise the kid alone as a woman and the man pay child support?


51 posted on 03/12/2005 3:56:24 PM PST by marajade
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To: marajade

you got me, I couldn't tell ya why.


52 posted on 03/12/2005 3:56:38 PM PST by kstewskis ("Tolerance is what happens when one loses their principles"....Fr. A Saenz.)
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To: kstewskis

Weakness is not a character trait I looked for in a spouse... but hey whatever floats your boat.


53 posted on 03/12/2005 3:57:47 PM PST by marajade
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To: marajade
You know... it takes two to tango. If people don't want kids maybe listening to the Catholic Church ain't such a good idea and using birth control is.

Oh, don't trot out this idiotic cr*p.

Do you seriously think there are people who ignore the Church when it says "don't fornicate" but listen intently when it says "don't use birth control"???

I mean, get freaking real here, okay? Something like 90% of married Catholics are contraceptors, if unmarried Catholics wanted to really be faithful to their religion [all together now]

They wouldn't be having sex, would they ?!?!

In case you missed the lecture, contraception sometimes fails. You did know that, right?

Sheesh, sometimes the kookiness level around here just gets amazing.

54 posted on 03/12/2005 3:59:58 PM PST by Campion
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To: marajade; Joann37
my vote would to be more tactful, and to not "flaunt" it, as Joanne stated, especially when they (the bride and groom)are supposedly making their promise in front of God.

Baby is born, unto a loving, married mom and dad. All's well. No need for the woman to raise it alone, or worse, abort. Where'd that come from?

Just my humble "o" of course.

55 posted on 03/12/2005 4:01:35 PM PST by kstewskis ("Tolerance is what happens when one loses their principles"....Fr. A Saenz.)
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To: marajade
I ain't "floating my boat" sister.

I am not married (yet), because I am still one of those few who choose to live up to a higher standard.

Get off it.

56 posted on 03/12/2005 4:03:05 PM PST by kstewskis ("Tolerance is what happens when one loses their principles"....Fr. A Saenz.)
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To: marajade
so many preggie stars who take pix of their bare bellys. Like someone really wants to see that.

When I was eight months pregnant I had a local artist ask to paint a nude of me, and I did it. When he had his show I went, no longer pregnant, and sat near the painting. I could hear the wonderful things every single person who walked by it said about it. And the artist later told me he had several people ask about buying it, and that it was the only piece he got inquiries on.

57 posted on 03/12/2005 4:04:40 PM PST by Cogadh na Siths Girl ("Wives, submit unto your husbands, as unto the Lord (Eph 5:22)")
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To: Campion

I could see the use of birth control failing some but not at the level to which that poster was saying.

I'm not a Catholic so I can't cite stats.

As a woman though I find it absolutely ridiculous that its always my fault sex ends in a pregnancy when I don't use birth control.

And if trapping a man was the ultimate goal, that's absolutely the worst beginning for a family.


58 posted on 03/12/2005 4:04:54 PM PST by marajade
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To: kstewskis

Well good for you. I'm glad you have higher standards and want a man that use the word, no.


59 posted on 03/12/2005 4:06:00 PM PST by marajade
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To: Cogadh na Siths Girl

Interesting story. Don't know if I would had the guts to pose nude eight months pregnant, good for you.


60 posted on 03/12/2005 4:07:40 PM PST by marajade
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