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Eight dead, four injured in Brookfield hotel shooting spree (Near Milwaukee, WI)
WTMJ NBC Milwaukee ^

Posted on 03/12/2005 12:24:04 PM PST by ConservativeMan55

Edited on 03/12/2005 4:38:41 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

Eight people are dead and four others injured after gunfire broke out during a church meeting this afternoon at the Sheraton Hotel in Brookfield. Police say that the suspect is among the eight dead and no other suspects are being sought.

The dead range in age from 10 years old to 72.


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KEYWORDS: bang; banglist; hotel; murder; terryratzmann
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To: maggiefluffs

Per Channel 4, Milwaukee.

4 victims in surgery at Froedtert hospital Milwaukee. News conference at 3pm CST.

2 victims taken to Madison to trauma center there.


61 posted on 03/12/2005 12:58:04 PM PST by MediaMole
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To: Sender

see #16


62 posted on 03/12/2005 12:58:07 PM PST by don-o (Stop Freeploading. Do the right thing and become a Monthly Donor.)
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To: Rambler7
Ugh. New Age garbage.

Regardless, even if this is the church, prayers up for the victims.

63 posted on 03/12/2005 12:58:14 PM PST by Ladysmith (Wisconsin Hunter Shootings: If you want on/off the WI Hunters ping list, please let me know.)
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To: Rambler7

You are SO funny!


64 posted on 03/12/2005 12:59:56 PM PST by Trust but Verify (Pull up a chair and watch history being made.)
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To: ConservativeMan55
Dang. I hate news like this. My connection with Brookfield, FWIW, was short, and long ago. Went to what was then "Pilgrim Park Junior High School." Lived at the west end of town, not far from Pewaukee.

Prayers for all who have to deal with the ramifications of this.

65 posted on 03/12/2005 1:00:17 PM PST by Cboldt
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To: MediaMole

Please let us know what is said?. I tried to call my son and got voice mail.


66 posted on 03/12/2005 1:00:31 PM PST by Lovergirl (A living Will isn't good enough. A Power of Attorney for Health Care leaves NO gray area)
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To: Ladysmith

Yes, I guess that's what struck me at first. But any group can have a homicidal wig-out among them. Yes, prayers for these victims.


67 posted on 03/12/2005 1:00:48 PM PST by Rambler7
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To: Trust but Verify

Heh, heh. You were there.


68 posted on 03/12/2005 1:01:38 PM PST by Rambler7
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To: don-o

I only said that it was odd. And it is odd. Maybe all the nuts are just going crazy simultaneously.


69 posted on 03/12/2005 1:02:35 PM PST by Sender (Team Infidel USA)
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To: Sender; don-o; Travis McGee
Does it seem odd to you all the high-profile shootings lately just as they are trying to reintroduce gun bills in the Senate?

Travis wrote about this scenario in his book, "Enemies Foreign and Domestic".

I would not put anything past the gun grabbers.

70 posted on 03/12/2005 1:03:49 PM PST by ActionNewsBill ("In times of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act")
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To: Sender
OK. What does any of it have to do with pending legislation.

(That was your brain fart. )

71 posted on 03/12/2005 1:03:52 PM PST by don-o (Stop Freeploading. Do the right thing and become a Monthly Donor.)
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To: Sender
I know this is probably going to bring some laughs from a few but I seriously believe in the battle between good and evil. On the spiritual level. It is evil that causes crimes like this horrible one, the Atlanta Courtroom Killer/Nichols, BTK, the rash of teachers involved with students, the high level of crimes by those in world leading positions, and etc. The evil "spirit" twists people's minds to perform evil acts, just as God guides us to do good. So much is happening lately that has been influenced by the dark side, the evil "spirit."

Most of us here, I assume, are strong supporters of President Bush, and many feel he is a man of principle and very spiritual. He is a good person, who surrounds himself with good people, and who openly admits to his relationship with God. He has fought evil, and brought a lot of good to the world again. If one believes in God, as our great President does, one must also accept that there is a force of Evil, and that evil is struggling for control. Call it the devil, whatever.

When evil is threatened, it becomes heightened to fight for survival. All these crimes, in our homes, neighborhoods, schools...teachers, terrorists, political leaders, etc...all this dark "stuff" surfacing - this is evil fighting back.

Now I am not an every Sunday church goer, but I have strong beliefs and faith. I remember the lessons I was taught, and that we must always be watchful of the power of evil. It disguises itself in many ways - sometimes in the persona of national leaders, ala Clinton, who so many thought and still think is a good person, sometimes in massive movements like the campaigns to take "God" out of our country's documents, buildings, schools. Like pro-choice movements, people who favor "mercy killing," gay marriages, etc. And sometimes in lifestyles of groups like the wild lives of the Hollywood bunch who have flaunted morality in the face of believers.

These people can rationalize their positions in grandiose, intellectual ways, and sound very convincing and considerate of others' difficulties. But, in effect, their desires are to drive us away from God and our belief and faith in His laws.

We must be of this world, and at the same time, be aware of the spiritual world. Prayer is our strongest ally, and best hope at times like these, as we struggle to keep from falling under the spell of, or control of evil people. The battle is real, we must recognize it is going on.

72 posted on 03/12/2005 1:04:29 PM PST by CitizenM
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To: Sender; don-o

Just to clear things up here a bit, I offer the explanation to all of us that your post seemed to imply a relationship , rather than a coincidence, between nuts gunning down groups of people and the introduction of gun bills to the legislature.


73 posted on 03/12/2005 1:05:52 PM PST by Rambler7
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To: Rambler7

Applying logic isn't part of how a conspiracy thinker...thinks.


74 posted on 03/12/2005 1:05:56 PM PST by SE Mom (God Bless our troops.)
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To: ConservativeMan55

I wonder what underlying vice precipitated this mess?


75 posted on 03/12/2005 1:05:59 PM PST by AEMILIUS PAULUS (Further, the statement assumed)
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To: Rambler7

6 adults at Froedtert Hospital, some of them brought in by Flight-for-Life, 1 patient at Children's Hospital, which is adjacent to Froedtert. Possible some victims were taken by helicopter to Madison for treatment.


76 posted on 03/12/2005 1:06:21 PM PST by Trust but Verify (Pull up a chair and watch history being made.)
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To: Lovergirl

Update from Hospital

6 patients at Froedtert. 2 in surgery.

1 at Children's hospital. (neighboring building)

7 total patients at Milwaukee County Medical Complex.

Unknown if patients were sent to UW hospital in Madison.

Very little information otherwise. HIPPA law is limiting the info that hospital can provide. News conference is postponed.


77 posted on 03/12/2005 1:06:28 PM PST by MediaMole
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To: Sender; don-o

see how it sets it off? that was what the rest of us were looking forward to. now it's started in earnest.


78 posted on 03/12/2005 1:07:30 PM PST by Rambler7
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To: ConservativeMan55

The gun control freaks will be all over the news next week, Atlanta, this incident, and whatever else happens this weekend that they will use to try/cry for more gun control.


79 posted on 03/12/2005 1:07:33 PM PST by Ellesu
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To: Rambler7

Yes, that was an interesting exchange.


80 posted on 03/12/2005 1:07:33 PM PST by Trust but Verify (Pull up a chair and watch history being made.)
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