Posted on 03/11/2005 6:32:41 PM PST by Sola Veritas
Rice pointedly declined to rule out running for president in 2008 on Friday during an hour-long interview with reporters at WASHINGTON TIMES, top sources tell DRUDGE. Rice gave her most detailed explanation of a 'mildly pro-choice' stance on abortion, she would not want the government 'forcing its views' on abortion... She explained that she is libertarian on the issue, adding: 'I have been concerned about a government role'... Developing late Friday for Saturday cycles... MORE...
"This is an opinion written as a fact."
What an odd thing to say on a discussion board. Of course, it is my opinion, and I believe it is valid. Having Condi on the ticket would shift a significant share of the black vote to our side. Black voters would have to weigh their disagreements with bits of Condi's views with the great opportunity to have a black person as president or veep.
Although she made that remark, I think she might be VP material. What do you think about that?
At least you confess your ignorance. Maybe, like our liberal judges, you can find it in an 'emanation' or a 'penumbra'. If I were you, I'd look there first, because it sure isn't in the plain words of the Constitution.
And the church is not a political party in America.
Thank God. But who said it was?
Citizens of America are proud to vote in elections even if they make the wrong choice. The pride stems from the voting itself. It is difficult enough to get to the polls from work, and amazing to think that religious people have the luxury to boycott voting.
'Religious people' are some of the most dedicated voters in America, thank goodness.
There are many conservatives, like myself, who are willing to permit abortion in limited cases, perhaps up to 8 weeks, to save a mother's life, or in cases of rape and incest. I suspect my view is close to Condi's. It's possible that some conservatives will stay home if she's on the ticket. But I suspect that their number will be more than made up for by moderates, some liberals, and blacks.
I agree with you on this with one exception. There are many Christians and pro lifers who believe if these justices had made an affirmation to Christ, then not matter their judical decision(s), they are heaven bound.
True. But we held them to the platform.
In addition, it wasn't a pro-lifer who ciphened votes away from these candidates during losing elections. It was pro choice Ross Perot.
Exactly. The pro-lifers stayed loyal.
Which shouldn't surprise anyone. Party 'moderates' talk a good game about unity and loyalty to the party, but the examples of them torpedoeing good pro-life candidates are legion.
Well said... as have been your other posts. : )
Condi is too liberal,she probably wouldn't win one primary, this whole dicussion is a waste of time. Can we give the 4 year presidential campaigning a break ? This is insanity.
In other words, you're saying that pro-life voters would prefer the totally unacceptable Democrat position on abortion to a less-than-perfect Republican position.
Last time I checked, being prolife doesn't require one to be a complete idiot.
A pro-abortion Republican Party would very quickly be a dead party.
Like I said, go out and actually win a political campaign before flapping your jaws at me about what wins and loses elections, boy.
If you want a pro-abortion party, go over to the Dems, Poohbah.
I'm prolife. Unfortunately, I also have an IQ greater than a carrot, which means that I don't throw a temper tantrum if I don't get my own way each and every time.
Dole was kicking and screaming up to the convention. He didn't finally give in until at the convention. By the end of the primary's he had the nomination cinched, as the convention of today is nothing more than a show for the faithful. So someone who did not embrace the prolife pland did make it to be nominated.
There you go again. Blaming pro-lifers for the continuation of abortion.
You guys just don't learn many new tricks, do ya...
If you spent half as much time going after the people who are responsible for the vast majority of abortions, (which don't fall within your beloved 'exceptions', and which are done simply as a form of gruesome birth control) as you do chastising pro-lifers, maybe we would get somewhere.
I wonder what will happen to IVF clinics. Lots of 'abortion' going on in there. I have not been able to convince someone that a fertilized egg is just as much a child as an baby about to be born.
Kemp was a better candidate but Dole held all the strings in the GOP and got all the funding. He made sure we got another four years of Clinton with his campaigning as I sat the election out rather than vote for some big spending
GOP moron. Even if I had known how bad Clinton was in 96 I'm not sure I could have voted for Dole just on principle.
Let me assure you, it was people just like are posting on this thread who got us to that point.
How about the contraceptive pill that allows fertilization of the egg, but prevents it from attaching to the uterus wall, thus being flushed during menstration. Commonly used contraceptive by thousands if not millions of women who would no sooner enter an abortion clinic than to....well date me. Yet month after month, a fertilized egg already beginning the process of life and cell division cannot attach itself to the uternine wall. And slowly the life drifts down the canal and finds it's final resting place.... well it gets graphic.
The good thing about election 2004 and the values vote is it sends a message to the RINOS that they are not really wanted on a national level in the GOP. McCain will do a nose dive in the south if he runs in 2008, thank God !
I once read a great book called "No Compromise". In fact, it's on my bookshelf.
Compromise is only acceptable for certain things. The compromises you seem to endorse - you can kill babies if they're only so old, you can kill babies if they're the result of incest, you can kill babies if their father is a rapist - are not acceptable. Killing the unborn, in any case when the mother will not die without it, is murder. You can't compromise on murder.
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But then again, where was Alan in 2004 during the primaries. Illinois hadn't placed the phone call yet and he sat out the primary because either he was scared or he bought into the sales pitch by Bush and Team that GWB was the evangelical choice. Alan was rarely above the radar in 2004 until Illinois.
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