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To: unlearner
See, right away you compare asking the saints who all their lives devoted themselves to the Most High God the best way they knew with worshippers of Baal. That is not a fair comparison. Calling it superstition is insulting to millions of Christians throughout the world.

Just as many, perhaps more, Christians who have asked the saints for favors have received them in miraculous ways. The glory redounds to God.

It really seems to upset you that people, and I especially, will not obey you in this regard. That is a sign of a controlling personality. God gives us more free will than you would seem to.

What do you really want? Do you want to start your own little church where everybody is obedient to you? Do you want all catholics and orthodox to leave their churches and come follow you?

255 posted on 03/14/2005 2:01:14 PM PST by Aliska
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To: Aliska

More insulting than calling me a "swine"? I am not namecalling. I am describing a behavior.

Why not welcome the prayers of Muslims to Allah? Would you welcome their prayers to save Terri? Do you see how this would obscure whether the God of the Bible or the God of Islam answered the prayer?

Do you understand that prayer is not some magic trick to get what you want from God? Prayer is intended for our benefit, to align our will with God's so that He can answer prayer that is in His will.

You can do what you want. I will sleep easy knowing that I warned you and others of what the Bible says about doing your own will and trying to worship God your own way.

I do not need anyone to follow me. Follow Jesus!

He is the One Who warned against copying vain pagan practices in prayer and worship. (See Matthew 6:7.)


256 posted on 03/14/2005 2:52:45 PM PST by unlearner
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To: Aliska

"Calling it superstition is insulting to millions of Christians throughout the world."

Actually, it's very loving. Having people willing to tell you the truth, even though it hurts, even though it pricks our pride to realize we have been wrong, and to see how hard our heart really is to the things of God.

It is a superstition. How did it arise? When Scripture was removed as the Final Authority for where we are to go for spiritual truth. When a church decides that "this is what we believe, and you are to follow what we say," and if those beliefs such as praying to the saints are wrong, that church is teaching false doctrine. They don't want to give it up. They have placed their opinions on the same level as Scripture, saying "We believe in praying to Mary or Joseph."

It IS contrary to the Word of God, and it an insult to YOU that your leaders have thought so little of you as to teach you this, and to continue to teach it, unrepentant.


262 posted on 03/15/2005 2:36:59 AM PST by gentlestrength (.)
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