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IDF reveals revolutionary shield system
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| 3/9/05
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Posted on 03/09/2005 3:10:00 PM PST by solmar_israel
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To: solmar_israel

A US-made Stryker APC equipped with new Trophy system; Sensors are mounted on front and sides.
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posted on
03/09/2005 3:12:40 PM PST
by
BrooklynGOP
(www.logicandsanity.com)
To: BrooklynGOP
Aren't you glad they're on our side?
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posted on
03/09/2005 3:17:46 PM PST
by
Righty_McRight
("Rescue those being led away to death; hold back those staggering toward slaughter" Proverbs 24:11)
To: Righty_McRight
"Aren't you glad they're on our side?"
I dunno, are they going to sell this to the ChiComs too?
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posted on
03/09/2005 3:19:59 PM PST
by
GunnyHartman
(Allah is allah outta virgins.)
To: GunnyHartman
I dunno, are they going to sell this to the ChiComs too?
You know I hadn't thought about Israel sellings stuff to china until you said that.
http://www.taiwansecurity.org/News/2002/WT-070202.htm
http://www.rense.com/general28/iisj.htm
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/709400/posts
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posted on
03/09/2005 3:30:26 PM PST
by
Righty_McRight
("Rescue those being led away to death; hold back those staggering toward slaughter" Proverbs 24:11)
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To: The_wonderful_wizard_of_oz
Sigh.
I take it none of you read military SciFi.
Check out "Hammers Slammers" by David Drake. It's just one of a series of novels about a mercenary company run by Col. Alous Hammer.
Counter measure to the system in the novels? Fire your shoulder launched antitank weapons (Buzz bombs in the novels.) in sequence at the same aiming point. It depletes the system and each one blows up closer to the vehicle until they start impacting the vehicle.
David Drake should charge them a royalty.
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posted on
03/09/2005 4:00:09 PM PST
by
BubbaTex
(Long time lurker)
To: solmar_israel
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posted on
03/09/2005 4:05:25 PM PST
by
TASMANIANRED
(Certified cause of Post Traumatic Redhead Syndrome)
To: solmar_israel
"But an official, speaking on condition of anonymity, said that personnel around the vehicle would not be harmed by the process.Riiiight.
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posted on
03/09/2005 4:05:30 PM PST
by
semaj
("....by their fruit you will know them.")
To: solmar_israel
THis is a variation on reactive armor. That works against HEAT type warheads, by disrupting the plasma jet. The Hammer's SLammer technique works very well against reactive armor, probably not so well against this type of system. Although it would still work, it would take lots more anti-tank missles to deplete the "shotgun" ammo store.
What happens if the other side deployes directed energy weapons and melts off the sensors/antennas that make this system work?
Measure, countermeasure. The cycle never ends, (and makes work for us Merchants-of-Death/Arsenal-of-Freedom)
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posted on
03/09/2005 4:24:05 PM PST
by
El Gato
(Activist Judges can twist the Constitution into anything they want ... or so they think.)
To: solmar_israel
Ingenious.
A brain is the best defense...
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posted on
03/09/2005 4:26:50 PM PST
by
EternalVigilance
(Freedom. Brought to you by the grace of God and the Red, White and Blue...)
To: Cannoneer No. 4
To: solmar_israel
I was wondering when someone would come out with a system like this. If this works in combat, it could make a thirty-something ton Future Combat Vehicle a reality. It would need something more than a shotgun, though, to knock down a main gun round.
To: Righty_McRight
Aren't you glad they're on our side? yes, but I wish even more that our guys were as creative.
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posted on
03/09/2005 4:36:36 PM PST
by
varon
(Allegiance to the constitution, always. Allegiance to a political party, never.)
To: colorado tanker
It was only a matter of time.. Isn't this akin to the phalnex(sp?) system used in the navy?
To: Almondjoy
Same basic idea as Phalanx. We also developed a laser system with the Israelis for smaller missiles. I wonder if some of the missile defense research would be applicable to shooting down main gun rounds and guided mortars.
To: BubbaTex
Actually, the Russians were reading Drake first. They fielded such a system on some T-54, T-72, and T-80 tanks (Drozd and Arena defensive systems). The big difference appears to be that theirs didn't work well and precluded the use of reactive armor; this one looks like it would work otherwise.
Here's some info on the systems, and what we're developing:
http://www.angelfire.com/art/enchanter/XM214.html
Looks like the OTHER anti-projectile technique from the Slammers series is what we're going to use - the CIWS-type system, where a minigun (tribarrel) knocks down an incoming projectile (aircar, artillery shell, satellite).
By the way, it's "Alois Hammer". Get it right next time, or Joachim Steuben pay you a visit. ;)
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posted on
03/09/2005 4:46:52 PM PST
by
Spktyr
(Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
To: Spktyr
Er, Major Steuben *will* pay you a visit.
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posted on
03/09/2005 4:48:30 PM PST
by
Spktyr
(Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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posted on
03/09/2005 4:58:28 PM PST
by
SJackson
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03/09/2005 5:01:45 PM PST
by
dervish
(Nihilism is dead)
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