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To: SiGeek

Evolution isn't random. Try to use references other than creationist crapsites so you will learn real stuff instead of made up nonsense.


176 posted on 03/09/2005 5:22:47 PM PST by shubi (Peace through superior firepower.)
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To: shubi
Evolution isn't random. Try to use references other than creationist crapsites so you will learn real stuff instead of made up nonsense.

Not sure what a crapsite is...but let's use your information. I'm asking you to inform me rather than insult

Rather than random activity, from your other posts I gather your point is that evolution is driven by natural selection, which isn't exactly random. Am I right?

Anyway, whatever the mechanism is that drives species changes over time, wouldn't you agree that it should be darn busy to create complex mechanisms like the eye, a wing, metamorphosis? Why haven't we seen anything other than microevolution over thousands of years?

Seems like a species that evolved into a bird would have to try all sorts of limb changes/mutations to eventually work its way down a series of changes ending up with flight, with many unhelpful failures along the way.

My understanding is that natural selection doesn't "know" the species needs to be a bird, so it seems a very non-selective, broad, "influence" like gravity or entropy. To get something complex and sophisticated from an influence like that, it seems to me so many dead-ends would be attempted that we would see lots of species changes, helpful and non-helpful, in recorded history.

195 posted on 03/09/2005 5:46:35 PM PST by SiGeek
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To: shubi
If evolution isn't random, then what is it? An organism cannot change itself to better fit it's environment. An specimen must have some mutation that allows it a better chance to survive and pass on it's genes. And that mutation certainly isn't planned or programmed. Come on, say it with me, it's "random". An accident, a farce, an anomaly, a freak, an oddball.

But wait! DNA itself is designed to be self healing and to resist mutation. And despite the thousands of generations of careful selective breeding (which will easily represent millions of years of natural selection), a dog remains essentially a freaky looking wolf and not a new breed.

Quiz me this: If the furthest galaxies are 13 billion lightyears away and the age of the universe is 14 billion years old and since the light is in the visible range, that means that the galaxy is traveling away from the earth at a relatively slow pace.

Now, assuming that the earth and that galaxy are at opposite ends of the universe and both are equal distance from the center of the "Big Bang" (7 billion l.y. from the cehter), then the light from that distant galaxy we can observe today left that galaxy 13 billion years ago, i.e. it had to be 13 billion l.y. from where earth is now 13 billion years ago. That gives it 1 billion years to move from the BB to it's current position.

How did the galaxy manage to move 7 billion light years from the center of the "Big Bang" in only 1 billion years without violating Einstein's theory of relativity?

198 posted on 03/09/2005 5:55:02 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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