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Nice jeans. But should you really wear them to the opera?
The Christian Science Monitor ^ | 3/9/05 | Kim Campell

Posted on 03/09/2005 9:47:25 AM PST by qam1

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To: calex59

Correction on my post 119. The word vvery should be very and snooby should be snobby!


121 posted on 03/09/2005 12:25:48 PM PST by calex59
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To: Xenalyte

I did actually think of that scene but luckily it was a crack free zone. All I was forced to look at were boxers.


122 posted on 03/09/2005 12:26:28 PM PST by Bacon Man (Dan Rather: Gone but best forgotten.)
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To: calex59

"Correction on my post 119. The word vvery should be very and snooby should be snobby!"

I'm going to now judge you on your lack of typing skills. How dare you insult this thread with your lack of perfect proof-reading. I'll forgive you if you're wearing something I judge to be "appropriate". wink wink :)


123 posted on 03/09/2005 12:28:43 PM PST by Chena
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To: calex59
All of you, or most of you, claim to be conservatives or libertarians and express a wish for less government intrusion into your lives but you don't have a qualm about telling other people how they should dress! What hypocrites. Either you are for freedom or you are not. Wearing what you wish for whatever occasion is the right of every individual in the US or the world for that matter. What a bunch of control freaks a lot of you are!

Please calm down. I doubt anyone here would propose that the government force people to dress one way or another.

Yes, you have the right to wear what you wish (subject to indecency laws and private property rights). And I have the right to criticize what you wear. As you say, either you are for freedom or you are not -- and that includes freedom of speech.

124 posted on 03/09/2005 12:29:17 PM PST by Logophile
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To: Logophile

"And I have the right to criticize what you wear."

Yes, you have the right to criticize someone for what they are wearing. Does that make you nice? Prolly not. Would it please God? Prolly not. We have the right to say and do many things, but that doesn't make it "right". But hey, that's just me. lol


125 posted on 03/09/2005 12:32:36 PM PST by Chena
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To: Diddle E. Squat

Whoa...I am glad my acquaintances and relatives are not as snooty and rude as you and yours. Yes, I wear Durango boots, Rocky Mountain jeans and a big silver belt buckle with an American Eagle on it (and FYI, I am female)on a daily basis...but showboating? I think not, that dress is common in our area, as common as the gun I carry. And no...I don't line dance, that's for sissies. One final thing...since you apparently have an aversion to country girls and seem to have no problem whatsoever in being rude to them...next time you see a country girl without animal hair on her, will you please kick her butt back to the city for me?


126 posted on 03/09/2005 12:34:44 PM PST by ravingnutter
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To: qam1

I'm part of that "in-between generation" (I was born at the end of '62), and I've got no problem with jeans all the time; but there are some places that I wouldn't dare wear 'em -- church is among those. Then again, I think it's tied to how you were raised.


127 posted on 03/09/2005 12:39:46 PM PST by mhking (Do not mess with dragons, for thou art crunchy & good with ketchup...)
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To: calex59
All of you, or most of you, claim to be conservatives or libertarians and express a wish for less government intrusion into your lives but you don't have a qualm about telling other people how they should dress! What hypocrites.

Apples and oranges. Nobody is calling for government to legislate dress codes. We're talking about standards of behavior and dress that are followed in certain situations. Just because something is legal doesn't mean that civilized people should engage in it.

Wearing what you wish for whatever occasion is the right of every individual in the US or the world for that matter.

No, it isn't. Many private establishments and businesses have dress codes and they'll ask you to leave if you don't follow them. Even without such rules, a civilized person should always dress appropriately for the particular circumstances.

IMHO, people who wear a t-shirt to a nice restaurant or jeans to a wedding are either (a) ignorant of proper rules of decorum, meaning they weren't raised right or (b) making a childish statement: "look at me, look at me, I'm different!"

128 posted on 03/09/2005 12:42:53 PM PST by Modernman ("Normally, I don't listen to women, or doctors." - Captain Hero)
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To: Xenalyte

I only wear jeans to church when I am volunteering in Children's church or the nursery because it gets very messy!


129 posted on 03/09/2005 12:45:48 PM PST by Cathy
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To: calex59; Chena; gingerky

I'm 25, I'm a conservative libertarian, and I'm a heavily tattooed rock&roll guy. So let me chime in with my $0.02 on this one, for what it's worth to you.

Nobody anywhere on this thread is saying that we want government to mandate dress codes. It is SOCIETY that mandates them. Some things never change. My girlfriend often whines to me "why don't you ever let me pay for dinner?" And she gets upset with me when I say "because you can't, you're a lady and I'm a man", I will treat her and the situation with the appropriate respect.

As far as "un-Christian", please, don't be silly! Judging a person on how they dress for a certain situation is a fact of life. Would you hire me if I showed up for the interview in jeans and a t-shirt?

Furthermore, it is NOT restricive of freedom to think that people would have enough class to know that when I go to a rock show, I'm going to wear a black skull t-shirt, jeans, and a camo hat. But when I go to the Philharmonic, I am going to wear a suit, a tie, and nicely shined shoes. I have enough respect for myself and my fellow patrons to dress in the appropriate manner. And if you say "it's not comfortable!" well, then you need to get a pair of pants that fit properly. If you say "it costs too much to get a suit!" you can always wear dress slacks, a sports coat, and a tie, or remember that you are spending $55 a ticket, maybe you should go somewhere they do not expect you to dress a certain way (even if you aren't REQUIRED to).

Additionally, yes, wearing whatever you want whenever you want to is your right. You do have the freedom to be a classless, uncultured slob. You are free to be an idiot. I love freedom and cherish it daily. But the next time you aren't showing respect for yourself, let alone your date, or other people participating in the activity that you are underdressed for, that someone like me will be there, some "snotty, elitist, pretentious SOB", to look down on you. You may not be a bad person. And dressing in this manner won't get you shunned for life. But remember that the person mocking you could be a heavily tattooed, 25 year old guy in a punk rock band!



Get real! How does it feel to be schooled by some punk, tattooed, KID!?


130 posted on 03/09/2005 12:46:36 PM PST by t_skoz ("let me be who I am - let me kick out the jams!")
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To: gingerky
You would really judge someone as a person not worth knowing because they wear a t-shirt to a good restaurant? How Christian is that?

People who wear a t-shirt to a nice restaurant or jeans to a wedding are either (a) ignorant of proper rules of decorum, meaning they weren't raised right or (b) making a childish statement: "look at me, look at me, I'm different!"

In either case, they're really not worth knowing. What other reason could they have for such behavior?

131 posted on 03/09/2005 12:46:48 PM PST by Modernman ("Normally, I don't listen to women, or doctors." - Captain Hero)
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To: Xenalyte

Well, I wouldn't in my wildest dreams but I am so out of the loop that my opinion is irrelevant.


132 posted on 03/09/2005 12:50:07 PM PST by cajungirl (no)
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To: mhking

Yes, the missing "link" is how you were raised - unless you are a complete rebel - but then that is because how you were rasied too! HA!


133 posted on 03/09/2005 12:54:37 PM PST by Cathy
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To: Cathy

If Cheerios and juice are involved, all dress code rules are off! ;)


134 posted on 03/09/2005 12:54:49 PM PST by Xenalyte (Anything is possible when you don't understand how anything happens.)
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To: Chena

Too true. While it is important to straightn yourself up before going in, the attitude of your heart and your behaviour there are a thousand times more important.


135 posted on 03/09/2005 12:55:57 PM PST by Androcles (All your typos are belong to us)
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To: Xenalyte

Not to mention bodily functions of little ones - better to wear something washable!


136 posted on 03/09/2005 12:59:19 PM PST by Cathy
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To: qam1

The last time we went to the 5th Avenue theatre in Seattle, I was shocked at the attire being worn. This was an evening performance and there were women in jeans. Of course, there were the traditional evening attire, but I suppose it's like everywhere else. Now they have office dress down Fridays and people don't dress up to go to church anymore.


137 posted on 03/09/2005 1:00:08 PM PST by Vicki (Truth and Reality)
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To: petitfour
Nope.

The rest were underdressed.

What did Reagan say to you?

Or did you make that part up?

138 posted on 03/09/2005 1:03:13 PM PST by HIDEK6
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To: petitfour
Nope.

The rest were underdressed.

What did Reagan say to you?

Or did you make that part up?

139 posted on 03/09/2005 1:03:27 PM PST by HIDEK6
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To: Polyxene

No, they actually try to run in them.

My husband is a policeman, and he comes home sometimes in hysterics, describing these juvenile deliquents who attempt to run while wearing those ridiculous jeans.

The long and short of it is...they CAN'T. Hubby rarely needs to even break out of a jog to catch them. From what I hear, watching them try to ride the bikes they just stole is pretty funny, too.

Regards,


140 posted on 03/09/2005 1:03:45 PM PST by VermiciousKnid
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