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Retailers want 16-hour trucker workday (Walmart)
http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/03/08/trucker.rules.ap/index.html ^ | 3-9-05

Posted on 03/09/2005 7:44:05 AM PST by TXBSAFH

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To: tater salad

Maybe we can children back into the coal mines, and all will be right with America again.


121 posted on 03/09/2005 10:16:17 AM PST by Wolfie
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To: Mensius

And there are ways around everything you identified. It's easy to avoid the scales, it's not like they move.

Many, many drivers continue to run dual sets. Hell they even trade freaking receipts at rest stops.

Extending the hours is not an option, especially now that we'll have trucks from mexico and canada on our roads.

Again, WalMart can KMA this thing isn't going anywhere.


122 posted on 03/09/2005 10:16:34 AM PST by Bikers4Bush (Flood waters rising, heading for more conservative ground. Vote for true conservatives!)
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To: Bikers4Bush
Extending the hours is not an option

Again, there not extending the hours of service. They remain the same at 70 hours in 8 days.
Just the window to comlete the days driving.

I concede that I will not convice you otherwise, so take care and have a good and profitable day.

Stay out of the blindspots..

Matt

124 posted on 03/09/2005 10:22:18 AM PST by Mensius
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To: M. Dodge Thomas

So then we should pass a law that stipulates that all truckers who use cell phones for more then 2 hours at a time be thrown in jail? Or that if a trucker uses a cell phone while it is raining or snowing or foggy they should be locked up?

Also, some people are just bad drivers. I'd like to see a study that compared the worst 1% of drivers (sober) with the best 1% of drivers drunk - and see how many beers it took to even them out. :)

My point is that the thresholds for public saftey are set too low and are most often dominated and used by special interest groups.

Trucking often require costly and differnt inter and intra state liscencing, which were lobbied for by the big firms to exclude smaller competitors.

I am willing to bet these changes (raise to 16hrs) will be opposed by the big trucking companies, who don't give a wit about the public saftey, but about limiting their competition. Infact, I bet they passed these laws in the first place.


125 posted on 03/09/2005 10:28:02 AM PST by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/foundingoftheunitedstates.htm)
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To: Mensius

Same, here. You as well.


126 posted on 03/09/2005 10:29:03 AM PST by Bikers4Bush (Flood waters rising, heading for more conservative ground. Vote for true conservatives!)
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To: Guillermo
Very few. Truckers are the safest drivers on the highways.

Trucks comprise 4% of the total number of vehicles and are involved in 13% of the fatalities.

Those were federal statistics from 1999. Not sure what the numbers are now.

127 posted on 03/09/2005 10:32:38 AM PST by houeto ("Mr. President , close our borders now!")
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To: mvpel
My wife and I did 16 hour days easily in an RV

One driver? I did 12 hours one day and was completely burnt the next day.

128 posted on 03/09/2005 10:34:45 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: traviskicks
I have a radical idea. Why don't we allow two individuals to voluntarily contract with each other without governmental interference.

Tell it to the family that gets its car plowed into by a sleepy truck driver.

129 posted on 03/09/2005 10:36:35 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: TXBSAFH

Driving recognized as a legal privilege not a right.
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This way of thinking is (IMO) problematic and reflective of the differences in our viewpoints. So many things are nowadays construed as 'legal privilages' that we hardly have any rights left.

It is a legal privilage to own a gun.
It is a legal privilage to (sometimes and in limited amounts) donate to a politicians campaign.
It is a legal privilage to own property (emminent domain).
It is our legeal privilage to have our taxes confiscated to pay for a million billion government programs and special interest perks.

I understand that some regulations are necessary, but I think it has gone way, way, way overboard.


130 posted on 03/09/2005 10:38:09 AM PST by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/foundingoftheunitedstates.htm)
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To: traviskicks
Acceptable... if and only if they do it on their own private property.

I'm not sure exactly why Wal-Mart would pay someone to drive a truck back and forth across their parking lot, but if that's what they want to do, it's no skin off my nose.

Just make sure to keep it off the public roads.

131 posted on 03/09/2005 10:53:16 AM PST by steve-b (A desire not to butt into other people's business is eighty percent of all human wisdom)
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To: tater salad

As I noted on another thread, if the Republicans keep voting for big-business corporatism (as opposed to free market capitalism), 08 November 2006 will be a day of woe on FR (and a day of exultation on DU).


132 posted on 03/09/2005 10:56:04 AM PST by steve-b (A desire not to butt into other people's business is eighty percent of all human wisdom)
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To: traviskicks
http://helix.azcentral.com/ramgen/realvideo/kpnx/news/0304copax.rm

This is what a trucker did at 3am. While they have not yet said it was because he was tired, I have to wonder.
133 posted on 03/09/2005 10:57:14 AM PST by sharktrager (The masses will trade liberty for a more quiet life.)
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To: Labyrinthos

I don't disagree with that. Trucks are subject to inspection at any time. Truckers are also subject to mandatory drug testing. While it hasn't made the MSM, the feds have been prosecuting companies whose dispatchers are forcing truckers to falsify their logs.

A trucker is between the devil and the deep blue sea when forced dispatched. If the trucker, who shouldn't be driving because of hours of service rules, doesn't take the load, they can find themselves either parked for days without a load or given loads that don't enable them to get the miles they need to earn enough money to pay the bills.

As I said, the feds know this happens and they're nailing companies and the executives of those companies that engage in those practices.


134 posted on 03/09/2005 10:57:27 AM PST by meatloaf
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To: houeto

But were the accidents their fault?

There was a statistic from the Feds that said something like 9 of 10 accidents involving commercial trucks were not their fault, but the fault of the other driver.

It would make sense the fatality rate is higher, because the trucks are so much bigger and capable of more damage.


136 posted on 03/09/2005 11:13:59 AM PST by Guillermo (Abajo fidel: End the Cuban Trade Embargo)
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To: Guillermo
But were the accidents their fault? There was a statistic from the Feds that said something like 9 of 10 accidents involving commercial trucks were not their fault, but the fault of the other driver.

That's a blame game. Almost all accidents are avoidable. The key is courteous and defensive driving. I watch truckers tailgating on I-10 almost every day.

I refuse to ride in a vehicle that my dad is driving. After years of driving trucks, he has absolutely zero tolerance for us nonprofessional drivers.

For a living I drive I-10 from the Alabama to the Louisiana line across Mississippi in a half ton pickup. I almost never see a smaller vehicle pull in front of a faster moving 18-wheeler. On the other hand, 18-wheelers routinely pull in front of faster moving cars/trucks so that they can pass another 18-wheeler that is going 1 mph slower than they are.

When a faster moving car hits an 18-wheeler that pulled out in front, guess who's fault it is?

(hint: not the truckers)

137 posted on 03/09/2005 11:38:42 AM PST by houeto ("Mr. President , close our borders now!")
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To: traviskicks

Were not talking about outlowing them, we're discussing loosening up the rules for people that drive "big transport trucks..." that "...have a large mass, are difficult to control, and have trouble stopping." I don't think that's a paticularly good idea.


138 posted on 03/09/2005 12:12:17 PM PST by Smogger
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To: meatloaf

Its not just the Feds cracking down. The New York State Troopers have beefed up truck checks in the NYC Metro Area. In addition to weight and safety, they are also checking loads and manifests. I have also heard that the NYS Dept. of Transportation has checked GPS logs to determine if truckers have exceeded hours of service.


139 posted on 03/09/2005 1:41:15 PM PST by Labyrinthos
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To: tater salad

"...they're trying real hard to make me regret all my votes last November."

Me too.


140 posted on 03/09/2005 2:17:26 PM PST by EagleMamaMT
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