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I'm watching "Desk Set" on Turner Classic Movies. In the movie, they boast that the machine translates "Russian into Chinese" !

Wondering what the resident techies think of the breakthrough reported here.

1 posted on 03/08/2005 6:08:50 PM PST by withteeth
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To: withteeth

There goes my daughter's job. I wonder if it will translate the obscenities she had to learn for her job....


2 posted on 03/08/2005 6:14:24 PM PST by Vor Lady
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To: withteeth
1954, huh?
How is it possible that a primitive computer 53 years ago could do so well, while babelfish and modern computers can't?

Does not compute.

Error, Will Robinson... Error!

3 posted on 03/08/2005 6:19:42 PM PST by Publius6961 (The most abundant things in the universe are ignorance, stupidity and hydrogen)
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To: withteeth

I read that when they first tested this thing they arranged a demonstration, and asked for someone to give the an English phrase to translate into Russian. Someone suggested "Out of sight, out of mind.". They fed it in and it spit out the Russian translation. Then someone suggested reversing the process, so they fed the answer, in Russian back into the machine and it translated it into "Blind idiot."


6 posted on 03/08/2005 6:28:26 PM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: withteeth

So, when do we get our Universal Translator? According to Trek lore, I thing it will be around 2150.


7 posted on 03/08/2005 6:29:58 PM PST by Mad_Tom_Rackham (This just in from CBS: "There is no bias at CBS")
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To: withteeth

The test for such a machine is to translate back from the target language into the original language.

Rumor has it that when the 701 started with the English phrase 'out of sight, out of mind' was translated into Russian, then back into English it responded, in typical Russian mind set, with 'invisible insanity"....


8 posted on 03/08/2005 6:36:41 PM PST by null and void (Fart Proudly!)
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To: withteeth

The (oversimplified) problem with machine translation is that a simple Dictionary 2 Ditctionary solution is not sufficient.

Words put into phrases, changes in 'tense', and thus varrying forms of conjugation across languages all come into play. (and as mentioned dialects, slang, and general 'misspellings')

An XML 'language' object database for each known lauguage will eventually be the key I feel.

Even then it would take an immense amount of logic to breakdown one language and build it up into another in realtime.. that is if such xml databases existed. It could be done on YOUR PC, but would be expensive to run a website that offered such a service to any large number of people.


10 posted on 03/08/2005 6:39:21 PM PST by FreedomNeocon (2)
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To: withteeth

Bable fish anyone?


13 posted on 03/08/2005 6:42:46 PM PST by eccentric (a.k.a. baldwidow)
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To: withteeth

i could use the french version.


14 posted on 03/08/2005 6:44:14 PM PST by ken21 ( warning: a blood bath when rehnquist, et al retire. >hang w dubya.< dems want 2 divide us.)
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To: aculeus; general_re; struwwelpeter
Keep the faith, Vera Solovieva Fan Club.
16 posted on 03/08/2005 6:51:03 PM PST by dighton
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To: withteeth
Ah yes, we are witnessing the end of the Curse of the Tower of Babel.

Just think. If this technology had been available a few decades ago, Teresa wouldn't be cruising around in The Flying Squirrel.

24 posted on 03/08/2005 7:46:09 PM PST by Savage Beast (My parents, grandparents, and great grandparents were Democrats. My children are Republicans.)
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