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Posted on 03/08/2005 2:15:42 PM PST by G32

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To: XeniaSt
There is no way they can be confused by a trained operator

Yeah, like the guy in the video? They are a bad idea because people will rely on something other than safe gun handling

161 posted on 03/08/2005 5:38:19 PM PST by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: coloradan

An awful amount of new guns have indicators. The Beretta 92 has for ages. Springfield XD's, Walther P99's, Glocks, all new Rugers, and many other have them. It's getting hard to find a new design without them now.


162 posted on 03/08/2005 5:43:47 PM PST by G32
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To: coloradan
Many guns are owned by untrained operators - including the police officer in the article.
That is why I train 100 to 200 NRA Certified Instructors each year. If I showed you the old and the new extractor you would be able to see the difference never to be confused.

NRA rules assume that all guns are loaded. Which is why you always point it in a safe direction. and always keep your finger off the trigger.
163 posted on 03/08/2005 5:44:16 PM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Y'shua <==> YHvH is my Salvation (Psalm 118-14))
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To: AnnaZ; HangFire

This video is just too rich.


164 posted on 03/08/2005 5:44:31 PM PST by Feiny ( The knack of flying is learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.)
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To: paul51
There is no way they can be confused by a trained operator Yeah, like the guy in the video? They are a bad idea because people will rely on something other than safe gun handling

He was trained with Jeff's rules not the NRA rules.

NDs are always caused by either ignorance or carelessness.
165 posted on 03/08/2005 5:47:57 PM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Y'shua <==> YHvH is my Salvation (Psalm 118-14))
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To: XeniaSt
Than you know the first rule: always assume the gun is loaded. An indicator will be used by lazy (careless) people to determine if the gun is loaded or not. That's it's purpose. It encourages dangerous shortcuts in safe handling. Indicator or not, there is only one safe way to determine if a gun is not loaded.
166 posted on 03/08/2005 5:48:22 PM PST by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: coloradan
I will never retrofit my Glock(s) with such indicators.

I have updated all my Glocks including my carry G30.
167 posted on 03/08/2005 5:50:49 PM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Y'shua <==> YHvH is my Salvation (Psalm 118-14))
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To: paul51
An indicator will be used by lazy (careless) people to determine if the gun is loaded or not.

I especially like it for my carry gun.
168 posted on 03/08/2005 5:53:09 PM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Y'shua <==> YHvH is my Salvation (Psalm 118-14))
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To: XeniaSt

What purpose does it serve?


169 posted on 03/08/2005 5:54:51 PM PST by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: feinswinesuksass
That a hilarious video.

"Im the only one I know of qualified to carry this Glock 40....boom"

"see how accidents happen?"

What an idiot. He should be fired.

170 posted on 03/08/2005 5:55:06 PM PST by No Blue States
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To: XeniaSt
I think a loaded chamber indicator is a good idea for a fighting gun. It has nothing to do with safety.

For protection, a quick glance will tell you if it is loaded or not. If not then you load it.

At night you can usually tell by feel.

171 posted on 03/08/2005 5:57:36 PM PST by yarddog
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To: XeniaSt
I was joking.

This is nothing but feel-good BS that gives a false sense of safety.

The reason I have Glocks is that I don't need gizmos.

172 posted on 03/08/2005 5:58:35 PM PST by Eaker (stop and kick dirt on these n00bs actin like b00bs.......:o) - Squantos 18-Feb-05 -)
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To: paul51
What purpose does it serve?

I recommend everyone who handle Glocks that they keep them in a decocked status.
But you can check your carry gun for status by touching the side of the slide in the dark and know if it is chambered.
173 posted on 03/08/2005 6:00:52 PM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Y'shua <==> YHvH is my Salvation (Psalm 118-14))
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To: coloradan
I will never buy a gun with such an indicator, and I will never retrofit my Glock(s) with such indicators. To me, all guns are always loaded, unless they're disassembled on the table in front of me.

ABSO-FREEPIN-LUTELY !

174 posted on 03/08/2005 6:01:15 PM PST by glock rocks (WYGIWYG)
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To: yarddog
At night you can usually tell by feel

I see that point but I'm thinking your carry gun always has one in the pipe and if not you would know it without the indicator. Tactically, I'll concede some purpose (very little. Safety wise, bad idea for mass consumption.

175 posted on 03/08/2005 6:02:34 PM PST by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: yarddog
At night you can usually tell by feel.

BINGO
176 posted on 03/08/2005 6:03:01 PM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Y'shua <==> YHvH is my Salvation (Psalm 118-14))
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To: G32

I feel safer now knowing that he is on the beat. After he did state that he was the professional.


177 posted on 03/08/2005 6:05:13 PM PST by HereInTheHeartland
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To: reagan_fanatic
Reminds me of the scene in the Three Stooges movie Disorder In The Court, when Curly is holding the gun and says, "See, I told you it wasn't loaded" just before the gun goes off and grazes some bald guy's head.

We named our yearly Bowling Pin Shooting Competition, the "Ken Baker Memorial Pin Shoot," and the trophy was a gun case with a bullet hole it it... Ken, the Sr Range Safety Officer had a .22 Ruger Mk-II go off while he was putting it back into its case!

We never let him forget that... And he never let us forget how you can never take things like this for granted. (No, Ken didn't die... In fact, nobody was hit. His weapon was pointed safely downrange as he was putting it into the case).

Mark

178 posted on 03/08/2005 6:05:28 PM PST by MarkL (That which does not kill me, has made the last mistake it will ever make!)
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To: FreedomPoster
"Mine are stone-ax reliable."

As are mine. I own three of them. One is a first generation Glock 17. I've run close to 75,000 rounds through the 17 with no gun attributable malfunctions. The few times that it did cough was when poor quality cheap factory reloads were used.The finish and polymer shows a little wear and tear, but it just keeps on chuggin'.

/jasper

179 posted on 03/08/2005 6:06:39 PM PST by Jasper ("Power flows from the barrel of a 10mm pistol")
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To: G32

I just watched the video. That has to be the funniest thing I have ever seen.


180 posted on 03/08/2005 6:10:18 PM PST by yarddog
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