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To: Petronski
Precisely. "A" is a delimiter. Porsche equals A car: true. Porsche equals car: false. Limitations are what you are leaving out.

Petronski Logic: Porsche = Car FALSE!

More fun with Petronski Logic:

Question: Who is George Bush

Answer: The President

Petronski Logic: FALSE! Bush is a president - Bush is a member of the group Presidents but Bush = President is FALSE!

579 posted on 03/14/2005 12:14:05 PM PST by Last Visible Dog
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To: Last Visible Dog
Question: Who is George Bush? Answer: The President

True.

I don't know what your strawman is meant to prove, but George Bush is currently the President and is one of 43 men who have served as president.

but Bush = President is FALSE!

Why don't you show me where I said that?

581 posted on 03/14/2005 12:19:16 PM PST by Petronski (If 'Judge' Greer can kill Terri, who will be next?)
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To: Last Visible Dog
Petronski Logic: Porsche = Car FALSE!

I wish your logic were true, then we'd all be driving Porsches. Make mine a GT3 with ceramic brakes, and give me the maintenance budget to replace them.

Petronski Logic: FALSE! Bush is a president - Bush is a member of the group Presidents but Bush = President is FALSE!

You're going all over the place with your wording again, not being specific, and then complaining when people don't agree with your wording. This stuff needs qualifying:

President Bush = a member of the group of all American presidents (true)
President Bush = the group of all American presidents (false)
President Bush = currently elected American President (true)
President Bush = President (veracity indeterminate due to the need for clarification of "President", past? present? which country or organization?...)

And you were earlier getting on me for not specifically qualifying what I meant by "hardware." Relax.

Too bad we can't represent the set symbols here, might make it a bit easier.

606 posted on 03/14/2005 1:33:32 PM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: Last Visible Dog
Question: Who is George Bush Answer: The President
Petronski Logic: FALSE! Bush is a president - Bush is a member of the group Presidents but Bush = President is FALSE!

This is also faulty logic, Dog. First, the set of "George Bush" contains TWO members who can be found in the set of "presidents". However, the set of "Presidents" contains a number greater than two... in fact thousands more than two. I myself am a president and a member of that set. To say that Bush is equal to all members of that set would then require that Bush = Swordmaker (who is also a member of the set "presidents"). That is patently false on its face.

However, the set of "The President of the Unted States" always contains only ONE member... and the statement that George W. Bush = THE President of the United States is TRUE.

The statement that George H.W. Bush = The President of the United States is FALSE, while the statement that George H.W.Bush WAS a President of the United States is TRUE.

641 posted on 03/14/2005 8:50:41 PM PST by Swordmaker
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