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We need evangelical Christian support
Haaretz ^ | 3/7/05 | Yehiel Eckstein

Posted on 03/08/2005 7:05:29 AM PST by ZGuy

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To: ZGuy

Rabbi Ekstein is a visionary who takes a lot of flack in the Jewish community. Some in the Jewish community believe Christians' only interest is in converting them, some Jews have residual prejudices and fears born of historical persecutions, and some just dislike all religion. Neither of the first two are relevant today in the Evangelical community, and the third is the bane of both communities.

I've met him and he's a wonderful person who has devoted his life to this organization:

http://www.ifcj.org/site/PageServer

That's him in the prayer shawl on the left side.


21 posted on 03/08/2005 2:02:25 PM PST by dervish (Nihilism is dead)
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To: StonyBurk
Isn't it true how much pontification we hear from those who are completely unschooled in the Bible? Here are two of their favorites. How much death and destruction was done in the name of God, and "turn the other cheek", consequently we should not engage in war.
22 posted on 03/08/2005 3:36:44 PM PST by watchdog_writer
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To: watchdog_writer

Let us not forget "Judge Not lest ye be judged."


23 posted on 03/08/2005 3:59:27 PM PST by StonyBurk
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To: hlmencken3; Alouette
"...There are also Evangelical Christians who covertly use forums for "interfaith dialogue" as a come-on for proselytism. In private discussions among themselves which have come to our attention, Evangelicals openly acknowledge this intentional misuse of "dialogue"..."

I engage in "interfaith dialogue" every day with Observant Jews, especially on Free Republic. They know where I stand. I know where they stand. We are in His Hands.

I support and pray for the Nation of Israel and the Jews, because His Heart is for His people Israel, and the ongoing work of restoration in the Land; the miraculous preservation of exclusive Jewish norms, culture, identity, and faith, through two millennia since the diaspora is irrefutable proof there is a living G-d and He keeps His covenant promises, which is a wonderful thing.

My Pastor and his peers, especially among the national Calvary Chapel community, have stood before the American President and representatives of the U.S. Federal government on behalf of the Nation of Israel and the Jews because they are faithful, even still, realizing that Israel only needs One supporter, HaShem.

Finally, I started the Christian Supporters of Israel List at Free Republic, and writing in advocacy of the Nation of Israel, because, to contend in the arena of ideas in this regard was all I could do, temporally, and second, like a lot of American Christians, we just got sick of seeing Jewish innocents blown up on buses, shot, stabbed, and assaulted by Islamic killers on the news and front pages of the paper every day.

If there is a conspiracy to covertly convert Jews, especially by me and mine, Alouette is gonna' be pissed.  !

24 posted on 03/08/2005 6:44:35 PM PST by Salem (FREE REPUBLIC - Fighting to win within the Arena of the War of Ideas! So get in the fight!)
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To: ZGuy; SJackson; yonif; Happy2BMe; Simcha7; American in Israel; spectacularbid2003; Binyamin; ...
"At a time when the rest of the world is arrayed against us, evangelical Christians are true friends who stand alongside us."

You betcha'!  !





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25 posted on 03/08/2005 6:47:06 PM PST by Salem (FREE REPUBLIC - Fighting to win within the Arena of the War of Ideas! So get in the fight!)
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To: ZGuy

Other than evangelical American Christians, I wonder who MK Vilan thinks is a better friend for Israel--in the whole world. Turks? Chinese? Russians? Democrats? Indians? French? Japanese? Who?


26 posted on 03/08/2005 6:51:18 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: Salem

Correct me if I'm wrong, but as far as I know, the only mainline American denomination that has recommended divestment in Israel is the Presbyterian Church (USA). This position was widely discussed and condemned on FR last year when it was recommended by the national body of the PCUSA.


27 posted on 03/08/2005 6:55:43 PM PST by Ciexyz (Let us always remember, the Lord is in control.)
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To: cookcounty
Yep,

Jews and Christians are being punished for forsaking God. God gives no preferential treatment.

It is sad that Israeli and American leaders have turned so far from God that they cannot see the evil they are fighting in islam. Only God can beat allah, and I don't think He is gonna help us until we as a nation turn back to Him.

F H
28 posted on 03/08/2005 7:09:27 PM PST by Fish Hunter
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To: Ciexyz
Yep, but guess who gets all the press, like they are so "progressive."

"Dead flies cause the ointment of the apothecary to send forth a stinking savour: so doth a little folly him that is in reputation for wisdom and honour." (Ec. 10:1)

29 posted on 03/08/2005 7:10:17 PM PST by Salem (FREE REPUBLIC - Fighting to win within the Arena of the War of Ideas! So get in the fight!)
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To: Salem

The prohibition refers to any kind of official public disputes, such as a panel with a rabbi and a priest, not to personal interactions.

A forum like this might be borderline, but it seems to me mostly personal, and in any case, I have seen few or no Jews engaging in theological disputations. Straightforward questions of fact can be dealt with straightforwardly.

And on a forum like this, deception seems pretty hard to get away with, LOL.


30 posted on 03/08/2005 7:17:22 PM PST by hlmencken3 ("...politics is a religion substitute for liberals and they can't stand the competition")
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To: ZGuy

AMEN! AMEN! AMEN!


31 posted on 03/08/2005 7:20:01 PM PST by Quix (HAVING A FORM of GODLINESS but DENYING ITS POWER. 2 TIM 3:5)
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To: ZGuy

At least someone sees the truth, Evangelical Christians are Israels best friends and supporters.
They are the tree, we've been grafted on.


32 posted on 03/08/2005 7:21:22 PM PST by HereInTheHeartland
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To: ZGuy

"Bottom rail on top this time, Mas'sa."


33 posted on 03/08/2005 7:44:34 PM PST by onedoug
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To: hlmencken3
"...and in any case, I have seen few or no Jews engaging in theological disputations."

Your profile says you have been registered here only since October of 2004? I'll have to try and dig up some of the older threads when the Jews here are laying out Orthodox belief. Likewise there are Christians who engage from their position.

Sometimes it gets heated. People get banned. Then, another bus would be blown up in Israel or some other bloody Islamic atrocity like the murder of the Hatuel family of Gush Katif and it immediately reestablishes some perspective. So we work together productively without compromising our respective principles and beliefs, because whether we like it or not, we are in an ongoing war against a mutual enemy.

"And on a forum like this, deception seems pretty hard to get away with, LOL."

Haaaaaaaa! Yeah, everything gets thrown into the white hot FReeper foundry. Either here in the forum or out in the field.

Just ask Dan Rather!  !

34 posted on 03/08/2005 7:50:38 PM PST by Salem (FREE REPUBLIC - Fighting to win within the Arena of the War of Ideas! So get in the fight!)
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To: watchdog_writer
Then pray tell why do Jews vote for Democrats?

I could never figure that one out either. The dims despise the Jews as much as they do theb blacks. But both keep voting for them.

35 posted on 03/08/2005 7:50:53 PM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: Salem; Alouette; NYer; Mark in the Old South; IAF ThunderPilot; SJackson

" I support and pray for the Nation of Israel and the Jews, because His Heart is for His people Israel, and the ongoing work of restoration in the Land; the miraculous preservation of exclusive Jewish norms, culture, identity, and faith, through two millennia since the diaspora is irrefutable proof there is a living G-d and He keeps His covenant promises, which is a wonderful thing. ... Finally, I started the Christian Supporters of Israel List at Free Republic, and writing in advocacy of the Nation of Israel, because, to contend in the arena of ideas in this regard was all I could do, temporally, and second, like a lot of American Christians, we just got sick of seeing Jewish innocents blown up on buses, shot, stabbed, and assaulted by Islamic killers on the news and front pages of the paper every day."

Well said, Salem! You rock!


37 posted on 03/09/2005 11:17:30 AM PST by Convert from ECUSA (tired of all the shucking and jiving)
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To: Alouette

Thank you for the ping. It was nice to read this positive article.


38 posted on 03/09/2005 1:04:27 PM PST by tuckrdout (Is prayer your steering wheel, or your spare tire?)
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To: ZGuy

I am a born again, spirit filled Christian and I "pray for the peace of Jerusalem" often.


39 posted on 03/10/2005 8:44:20 AM PST by trillabodilla (Pray for President Bush!)
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To: trillabodilla
I am a born again, spirit filled Christian and I "pray for the peace of Jerusalem" often.

Ditto.

40 posted on 03/10/2005 8:34:11 PM PST by Theo
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