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Young investors: Best days are ahead
Charlotte Observer ^ | 3/7/05 | Amy Baldwin

Posted on 03/07/2005 9:40:23 AM PST by qam1

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1 posted on 03/07/2005 9:40:24 AM PST by qam1
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2 posted on 03/07/2005 9:42:31 AM PST by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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It is better to invest a small amount of money over a long period of time than a lot of money in a short period of time

I have always wondered about this advice. How many have a lot of money to invest all at once? Seems like most people would be more likely to free up a small amount regularly and wouldn't have a large chunk anyway. We all pity those who have a sudden large inheritance or if somebody wins a lottery. The agony of the sudden rich deciding whether to invest a large amount in stocks and bonds all at once or to stash it some interest-bearing place while doing some research must be noticeable to investment advisors.

3 posted on 03/07/2005 9:53:14 AM PST by RightWhale (Please correct if cosmic balance requires.)
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By not having the money to jump in and buy the moment's hot tech stocks, including North Carolina's own Red Hat Inc., you didn't lose it all when the market crashed in 2000.

Not having money is the best!

4 posted on 03/07/2005 9:55:07 AM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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Wish I had some money to invest. Tickles me when I listen to these shows via tv or radio telling people how to invest and when, especially the push to buy gold. The missing link is that a person's got to have some money to invest.


5 posted on 03/07/2005 10:03:35 AM PST by lilylangtree (Veni, Vidi, Vici)
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Didn't they say this in 1928? Nobody can predict the future...


6 posted on 03/07/2005 10:04:16 AM PST by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - They want to die for Islam, and we want to kill them.)
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-The missing link is that a person's got to have some money to invest.-

Indeed - just try investing $500; you'll get virtually nowhere.


7 posted on 03/07/2005 10:07:07 AM PST by AmericanChef
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You're better off maxing out your 401(k) contributions and setting up individual retirement accounts than trying to pick hot stocks in raging markets.

This bears repeating.

... make regular investments and not try to time the markets fluctuations. That's called dollar-cost averaging, not irrational exuberance.

Dollar-cost averaging means investing a certain fixed amount every month or from every paycheck no matter the direction of the market or the relative health of corporate earnings. Often, such investments are made by automatic withdrawals from checking or savings accounts into IRAs or from paychecks into 401(k) accounts.

Or, perhaps, a portion of the Social Security taxes taken out of my paychecks???

The idea behind this practice is that, historically, the stock market's advances have more than made up for its losses, producing a healthy return. It is also considered a safer strategy than investing or selling a chunk of stock all at once and possibly at the wrong time.

Obviously it's not "safe" enough for the Dumbocrats, who want to keep the Social Security ponzi scheme intact...

Younger investors also have time on their side. The earlier you start investing, the more money you'll have at retirement. That's called compounding.

Another reason younger investors want Social Security reform.

8 posted on 03/07/2005 10:08:59 AM PST by gieriscm
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To: AmericanChef
Indeed - just try investing $500; you'll get virtually nowhere.

You can open brokerage accounts with $500, as long as you commit to an automatic-deduction savings plan, which can cost as little as $25 a month. Anyone can do this, even a college student, with minimal sacrifice.

-ccm

9 posted on 03/07/2005 10:25:55 AM PST by ccmay (Question Diversity)
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You got to be kidding me. Then why are the commercials selling? When I heard the S&P hit a 3 1/2 year high I sold out too. If you had $10,000 five years ago and invested in the NASDAQ you would presently have $4,000. If you invested in Gold you would now have $16,000. Any questions?


10 posted on 03/07/2005 10:29:05 AM PST by eternity (From here to...)
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"you didn't lose it all when the market crashed in 2000"

Isn't it funny how all these things are popping up here and there that the liberals claimed were preposterous, but now are accepted? They insisted the stock market didn't tank untill 'W' was in office in 2001... also see: CHINA MISSLES shows the result of Clinton giving our top nuclear secrets to China for campain contributions...

11 posted on 03/07/2005 10:39:35 AM PST by logic ("All that is required for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing......")
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Well, regular people (i.e. those who are not company executives or founders) rather frequently come upon windfalls in the range of 50-200K (employee stock options, inheritances). Although this kind of money does not go as far as it used to, still it is something. And the basic discipline - when in doubt, do nothing, and do it slowly - still applies. Basic advice was to put the windfall into MMA, and then dollar cost average it into the market over 2-5 years, or even longer, depending on the size of the windfall and the level of the windfallee's psychological comfort.
12 posted on 03/07/2005 10:44:54 AM PST by GSlob
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To: eternity
If you invested in Gold you would now have $16,000. Any questions?

Past is past. What do you do now? Still buy gold?

13 posted on 03/07/2005 10:47:55 AM PST by Snardius
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To: AmericanChef
Indeed - just try investing $500; you'll get virtually nowhere.

Actually, if you invest it in an index mutual fund that matches the stock market's average rate of return over the past 75 years and let it sit for 40 years, you'll have $29,165.86. Not a lot to retire on, granted, but hardly "virtually nowhere".

Now if you do the really smart thing and keep socking away that $500 every month over those 40 years, you'll have over $3 million. That's a pretty comfortable nest egg for most people to retire on.
14 posted on 03/07/2005 10:49:45 AM PST by Turbopilot (Viva la Reagan Revolucion!)
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Not to brag, but dollar cost averaging over many years has put me into a certain category. I plan to continue doing it until I die.


15 posted on 03/07/2005 10:56:51 AM PST by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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It's not a one time thing. You need to carve out small biweekly or monthly investments, that you feed over the long haul. Always pay yourself first. Rich Dad 101 ... First step before all this. Write down all money out and money in weekly. Analyze your cash flow. See what you can cut in terms of the outbound piece. If you don't *need* (as opposed to want) it, then don't buy it until after you have paid yourself, and paid your bills. Doing what I have described over many years will, if not make you rich, at least vastly increase your net worth.


16 posted on 03/07/2005 11:00:01 AM PST by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: Turbopilot

$500 initial investment
$1 a day added for 65 years
Put in agressive growth stock fund 10% return
At age 65 $2,210,008.82


17 posted on 03/07/2005 11:01:16 AM PST by listenhillary (My tagline died, memorials may be made to me via Paypal)
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RE: The missing link is that a person's got to have some money to invest.

Do you have cash flow? The answer is yes. Write down all your expenses and all your sources of income. Chart it out over the course of weeks / months. Determine what you can cut on the outbound. Pay yourself first (e.g. carve out a small sum and add it to a money market / mutual fund / IRA / stock portfolio / bond portfolio), pay your bills then if you have anything left, that's your fun money. Most people (and I really do mean most) do this in reverse - fun, bills .... oops, nothing left! Cut up credit cards if you are having a particularly difficult time turning this around. Rich Dad 101 ...


18 posted on 03/07/2005 11:03:58 AM PST by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: Snardius

You have to look at the USD. Presently around 82 and 83. What I see it will continue to go sideways. If it breaks below 80 look out. All these fund managers will hit the panic button at the same time to try to get out. Now the title of the post is young investors...Sure if you are maybe 5 of 6 years old and are looking for a secure retirement go ahead and invest. If you are not comfortable with putting your money into a hard asset (Gold) then remember cash is always king.


19 posted on 03/07/2005 11:23:31 AM PST by eternity (From here to...)
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I remember thinking in the 90's (Without ever taking a finance class, and being in HS).

"The stock market is doing so good right now, but I don't understand why everybody is buying... isin't the whole idea that the stock market only goes up so it can go back down again?"
20 posted on 03/07/2005 11:43:32 AM PST by DixieOklahoma ("Two blue cows and a dose of Ramma Damma Ding Dong"- Jefferson Davis)
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