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To: Lucky Dog; Gabz

"A private business that opens its doors to the public is bound by the laws that are deemed reasonable by the representatives of the people for the public use of that business."

You just made it clear that you do not believe in private property. You prefer to give the ability to the "majority" to confiscate private property as they see fit. With this statement, you must also support the ED cases that are stealing property from one private entity to give to another private entity in the interest of "public good". Would you stand by and allow these elected representatives to confiscate a church to allow a private contractor to build condos?

"For example, consider fire safety laws, occupancy limits, sale/use of illicit substances, etc. Prohibiting smoking is no different than any of those other restrictions on a "private" business."

No difference? You can't tell when smoking is allowed in the business? Or is it that you can easily tell the set up of the fire protection system?

"As to my "selfish views," it is those who wish to smoke that are exhibiting selfishness. As I observed before, everyone has to breathe, but no one has to smoke."

It is not your rights to not smell cig smoke, nor my right to smoke, it is the property owner's rights that are being stolen for your convenience. No more selfish act could be envisioned. You need to read WW's article, titled "Harm is more than a two way street". A quick search will get you there.


96 posted on 03/07/2005 5:36:13 AM PST by CSM (Currently accepting applications for the position of stay at home mom.)
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To: CSM; All
What it means to be a private business owner:

 

105 posted on 03/07/2005 5:54:00 AM PST by SheLion (The America we once knew and loved ........................is gone.)
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To: CSM
You just made it clear that you do not believe in private property.

You are gravely mistaken. Private property that is in private use is not, nor should it be, subject to the same strictures levied on property that is intentionally opened to the public for business purposes. If you cannot see that difference, then perhaps you should search the net for sites dealing with logic as well as common law and other legal precedence.

Would you stand by and allow these elected representatives to confiscate a church to allow a private contractor to build condos?

No. However, I would support the condemnation (i.e., closure to the public) of any "business" property intentionally opened to the public for which the owner does not no comply with the legal requirements for operating that business.

...it is the property owner's rights that are being stolen for your convenience.

Sorry, your argument fails the test of logic.
149 posted on 03/07/2005 7:39:05 AM PST by Lucky Dog
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