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Russia Looks to Germany for Military Ties
Kommersant ^ | MARCH 04, 2005

Posted on 03/06/2005 11:34:34 AM PST by Grzegorz 246

Russia Looks to Germany for Military Ties

Russia and Germany are building up close military cooperation. Last week, Russia’s Defense Minister Sergey Ivanov and his German counterpart Peter Struck have agreed on combined maneuvers, railway transit to Afghanistan and canvassed plans to launch German military satellites by Russian rockets, RBC news agency says.

In the course of negotiations, the parties have agreed to hold combined maneuvers both in German and Russian territories. Germany got the go-ahead to widen its military transit. Russia had already sanctioned free transit of German planes delivering military cargo and manpower to Afghanistan. Now, the railway transit is also possible. Thus, the Germans may materially beef up their presence in Afghanistan in case of need.

Moreover, defense ministers went through the future cooperation in the rocket-and-space field, in particular, Ivanov and Struck considered the plans for launching German military satellites by using Russian missiles. Development of the European Anti-Ballistic Missile System was also in the limelight. To this effect, Russia intends to use already existing and well thought of technologies, “including antiaircraft missile system S-300 in different modification, besides, it will soon apply the S-400 Triumph. At the same time, this system is to be built up based on several components, and not only the Russia’s ones. It is important to tie all of them to the already available efficient technologies,” said Ivanov, adding regular Russia-NATO maneuvers on establishing the anti-ballistic missile system are slated for June of 2005.

The experts root such military closing-in movement of the two countries to the breach occurred between the United States and Germany in the course of the European tour of the U.S. President George W. Bush. Germany is evidently displeased with its failure to become a dominant force in the EU, despite its obvious leadership in economy. To achieve this purpose, the Germans need to boost their military potential. The analysts see obvious analogy with the 20s-30s years of the past century, when the Soviet Union had been providing raw and training personnel for Germany, humiliated by the Versailles Treaty. Then, Moscow had been counting on reinforced Berlin to balance London, as well as today Russia is looking to Germany to oppose the United States.

Besides, Russia and Germany may again start chumming up against Poland, which eyes not only the orange Ukraine and Moldova, but also Belarus. Such friendship may lead to the split-off of revived Rech Pospolitaya between Moscow and Berlin, the analysts say. “The situation is very much alike. We must remember that geopolitical games will end once. Then, they ended on June 22, 1941,” RBC quoted Dmitry Evstafiev, an expert at PIR-Center, as saying.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; Russia
KEYWORDS: evilempire; fourthreich; geopolitics; putin; russia
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1 posted on 03/06/2005 11:34:37 AM PST by Grzegorz 246
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To: Grzegorz 246


German Defense Minister Peter Struck talks to Russian Defense Minister Sergey Ivanov (R) during a visit to a Bundeswehr training area in Altmark north of Magdeburg March 3, 2005.
2 posted on 03/06/2005 11:35:20 AM PST by Grzegorz 246
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Again ? We need nuclear weapon.


3 posted on 03/06/2005 11:35:53 AM PST by Grzegorz 246
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To: lizol; Lukasz

Again ? We need nuclear weapon.


4 posted on 03/06/2005 11:36:09 AM PST by Grzegorz 246
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To: Grzegorz 246

Hitler once outsourced his war making and fighting abilities in the Soviet Union.


5 posted on 03/06/2005 11:37:08 AM PST by JudgemAll (Condemn me, make me naked and kill me, or be silent for ever on my gun ownership and law enforcement)
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To: Grzegorz 246

You guys are dreaming if you think Germany is ever going to be a world power again.


6 posted on 03/06/2005 11:38:48 AM PST by HighFlier
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To: Grzegorz 246

Ok, so what the heck do we need NATO bases in germany for???

Pull out all US military in germany immediately. And move them to poland, white russia, and the baltics.


7 posted on 03/06/2005 11:40:37 AM PST by mamelukesabre
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To: Grzegorz 246
Ain't no surprise in that .
And do we really think our supposed " Allies " are really looking out for our best interest ?
8 posted on 03/06/2005 11:42:07 AM PST by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM 53 : 1 The ( FOOL ) hath said in his heart , There is no GOD .)
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To: Grzegorz 246

A good reason to leave our troops in Germany, if you ask me.


9 posted on 03/06/2005 11:45:03 AM PST by Brilliant
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To: Grzegorz 246

Why don't they just dust off the old treaty? It is essential that Germany avoid problems on two fronts. Once Germany absorbs France, either directly or through the mechanism of the EU, she can then address the enemy to the east. Germany just has to avoid the previous mistakes.


10 posted on 03/06/2005 11:45:50 AM PST by Tacis ("John ("What SF-180?") Kerry - Still Shilling For Those Who Would Harm America!")
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To: Grzegorz 246

You're polish?


11 posted on 03/06/2005 11:46:04 AM PST by sanchez810
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To: Grzegorz 246
Hmmmm indeed.
12 posted on 03/06/2005 11:46:21 AM PST by mainepatsfan
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To: Grzegorz 246

A Schroeder-Putin non-aggression pact?


13 posted on 03/06/2005 11:46:29 AM PST by jimbo123
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To: Tacis
Once Germany absorbs France

There was a time when France and Germany were one state.

14 posted on 03/06/2005 11:51:53 AM PST by A. Pole (CEO of CISCO: "What we're trying to do is outline an entire strategy of becoming a Chinese company.")
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To: A. Pole
LOL, The E.U. Parliament building is called The Charlemagne Building.
15 posted on 03/06/2005 11:53:39 AM PST by sanchez810
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To: Grzegorz 246
Been there ... done that. (Rapallo Treaty)

Temporary at best.

16 posted on 03/06/2005 11:57:06 AM PST by G.Mason ("If you are broken It is because you are brittle" ... K.Hepburn, The Lion In Winter)
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To: rogue yam; CATravelAgent; 2banana; libfo; Agog; Fiddlstix; FreedomSurge; chudogg; redhead; ...
Eastern European ping list


FRmail me to be added or removed from this Eastern European ping list

17 posted on 03/06/2005 11:59:01 AM PST by lizol
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To: Grzegorz 246

Last time the two culprits had a "military agreement" World War II started. (That would be August 1939 for the historically challanged.)

No wonder why all the Eastern European nations wanted to join Nato and are better friends to the US than western Europeans.


18 posted on 03/06/2005 11:59:14 AM PST by dinok
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That's historically been the case with Eastern Europe after the creation of Germany. It was stuck between to Empires(Germany^Russia).


19 posted on 03/06/2005 12:01:18 PM PST by sanchez810
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To: mamelukesabre

Ok, so what the heck do we need NATO bases in germany for???

Pull out all US military in germany immediately. And move them to poland, white russia, and the baltics.




That is already in the plans and has been for over a year now...


20 posted on 03/06/2005 12:24:14 PM PST by MikefromOhio (The DUmmies: Showing us daily how screwed up people can really be!!!!)
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