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Between you and your maker (Right to Die?)
Buffalo News ^ | 3-6-2005 | MYRIAM MARQUEZ

Posted on 03/06/2005 10:36:52 AM PST by Houmatt

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To: HangnJudge

theres a good reason why they make you take that oath as well. Sorry, but I would never see a doctor who didn't take that oath seriously.


21 posted on 03/06/2005 12:40:28 PM PST by Halls
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To: Ohioan from Florida

From another:

Jay Wolfson was just on television (Channel 28) building up Greer, that DCF never had any complaint until now, saying that Terri never had a bedsore and that he visted with Terri for a full month.

Ch 28 said I am the only one who has called.
813-354-2800

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From me:

DCF needs to investigate this in their probe re: Terri Schiavo - AHCA Coverup

Information, materials, etc. pertinent to crimes being perpetrated against Theresa Schindler Schiavo and pertinent to a current DCF investigation listed below:

http://tekgnosis.typepad.com

Let your Congressman and Senator know and tell them to vote in favor of the Incapacitated Person's Legal Protection Act as well.

NOTE: Free faxing for entire Washington D.C. area:

http://www.tpc.int/sendfax.html (send a free fax from your web browser)

Format of number to input is:

(ex. Pres. U.S. [POTUS]) -> 1 202 456 2461
(ex. Ashcroft) -> 1 202 514 1009
Vice Pres. Dick Cheney 1 202 456 2710

U.S. Senators and Congressmembers, etc.

http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm


22 posted on 03/06/2005 12:40:28 PM PST by pc93 (http://www.blogsforterri.com)
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To: DManA; All

23 posted on 03/06/2005 12:40:34 PM PST by Ohioan from Florida (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.- Edmund Burke)
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To: Grannyx4
It was their children who were tired of the burden.

This is commonplace in the Netherlands too. I saw a cartoon years ago, where an old lady on her deathbed suddenly jumps up and tries to strangle her son, telling him, "I knew I should have aborted you TOO!" It's all in the money, as the liberals said in Watergate.

24 posted on 03/06/2005 12:55:28 PM PST by Theodore R. (Terri has already outlived Eleanor Centzone.)
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To: DJ MacWoW
In April 2001, her death by dehydration was ordered to begin, and the day her feeding was stopped her brother and sister came by with a spoon and a cup of pudding, asking a nurse to try to feed her by mouth. The nurse refused and reported the request to others. When Schiavo found out he demanded that Bobby and Suzanne be removed from the list of approved visitors, and Greer rubberstamped his request....

We're supposed to be polite here, right?

I cannot be. What I have to say would not be the least bit polite. What I would like to do would get me in quite a bit of trouble.

I have an odd habit of laughing and tapping my fingers when I don't think something is the least bit funny. I laughed and tapped a lot at the above.

What I would like to do is to go down into the basement and open a few boxes. I better not.

25 posted on 03/06/2005 12:55:59 PM PST by The Other Harry
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To: oldfart; Hildy

You know, as we grow older, our bodies do tend to fall apart, and our minds are not always as sharp. But it's still life, and having been bedridden at one point but received the therapy to recover from my injuries, I have the perspective that comes from experience. At first I thought it was unbearable. I took great joy in the few things I was able to still do, like sit up in bed with help, and eat (without help). I couldn't walk, but I could sit. I watched TV a little, read a lot, and prayed a whole lot more. I learned patience and humility like I had never known before. I am a better person having gone through a severe injury.

Each day I learned how to cope and deal with my problems. I had to communicate with my family differently. They could not afford to tend me every minute, or even every hour, but I was grateful for every thing they did even if it was an hours old request. Being disabled is not the most horrible thing in the world. We can make it through these difficulties in life if we keep our faith in that what we have become is still important, worthwhile, and good.

I've always loved life, much as you say you have, but I now have a deeper appreciation for my blessings. I learned to count each and every little blessing I had, and knowing that I was loved and treasured by God is by far the most important blessing I've been given.

If God gives me a cross to bear, I am going to try my best to carry that cross until He calls me home. It's His decision, not mine.


26 posted on 03/06/2005 12:57:53 PM PST by Ohioan from Florida (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.- Edmund Burke)
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To: oldfart
I live in Oregon and I'm getting on toward the point where I might have to deal with this issue.

We all do, sooner or later. Not necessarily on our own schedule.

I have been working on my "final book". It has been turning out to be more complicated than I expected.

I intend to make several copies and pass them around.

27 posted on 03/06/2005 1:00:16 PM PST by The Other Harry
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To: TASMANIANRED

Thank you for sharing that with us. There is value even in the 'winding down' parts of life. Many times, we are just too busy to take the time with each other, just to be together and to share whatever life has for us, with each other. It's so good that you were able to spend that precious time with your mom!


28 posted on 03/06/2005 1:02:49 PM PST by Ohioan from Florida (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.- Edmund Burke)
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To: The Other Harry
We're supposed to be polite here, right?

I hear ya'. This situation is so cockamaymie that's it's hard to understand why others don't see it. What's so wromg about feeding her by mouth? It makes no sense.

Another Freeper told me the judge was probably afraid she'd choke. I had no words for such an inane answer.

29 posted on 03/06/2005 1:04:04 PM PST by DJ MacWoW ("Are you cops? FBI" bad guy, "I'm currently unemployed" Tony Almeida of 24)
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To: Ohioan from Florida

There are different levels of disability. I'm glad you are able to deal with yours and have prospered spiritually from it. But that doesn't mean everyone can, or everyone is as blessed as you were.


30 posted on 03/06/2005 1:04:08 PM PST by Hildy
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To: Ohioan from Florida; Lesforlife; pc93; Theodore R.; Halls; DJ MacWoW; MeekOneGOP; Grampa Dave; ...

terrisfight.org

31 posted on 03/06/2005 1:05:09 PM PST by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: Hildy
But that doesn't mean everyone can, or everyone is as blessed as you were.

How can we judge anothers blessing? Or whether their life is blessing someone else? How can we claim someones life has no value without debasing our own?

32 posted on 03/06/2005 1:09:52 PM PST by DJ MacWoW ("Are you cops? FBI" bad guy, "I'm currently unemployed" Tony Almeida of 24)
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To: DJ MacWoW

we can't. All I'm saying, and have always said, is that it should be up to the patient him/herself.


33 posted on 03/06/2005 1:12:22 PM PST by Hildy
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To: TASMANIANRED
Our friend Sandy died of brain cancer Monday morning at ten at home surrounded by loved ones and under Hospice care.

My smarter half is now cancer-free having gone through surgeries, radiation and five years of Tamoxifen.

Twenty-five years ago she remained with her sister as her sister's cancer metastasized throughout her body.

My younger brother ten years ago came back from virulent testicular cancer with a new chemotherapy from IU-PUI.

You describe your mother's vision enlarging even as her life was being withdrawn.

When we are in the presence of the miracle of life, it stills all mocking, leaving only awe.

34 posted on 03/06/2005 1:13:45 PM PST by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: DManA
Many of your colleagues don't feel bound by the part that talks about abortions.

I don't know the actual percentage of physicians who perform abortions, but I do know it is very small. Most people in the medical profession are repulsed by the procedure and avoid work in clinics specializing in them.

That's one of the reasons some activists try to get bills through legislatures that would force med schools supported by government money (all of them) to train students in abortion. However, that would not be an answer to the problem because it's not that doctors don't know HOW to do them, it's that they don't WANT to do them.

35 posted on 03/06/2005 1:14:04 PM PST by PLK
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To: Hildy

36 posted on 03/06/2005 1:14:22 PM PST by Lauren BaRecall (Disconnect GREER, not the feeding tube!!!)
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To: Hildy

I agree that there are different degrees of disability. I disagree that not every one can learn to deal with it. It's matter of will. IMHO. Just like with anything else in life, if you say "I can't do it" then you surely won't. But if you say "I might be able to" you open yourself up to the possibility of accomplishing that which you previously thought may have been unattainable. Sometimes the struggle is hard, yes, but not impossible. Impossible happens only when we give up hope. Hope is part of faith. Do you believe God can do all things or just sort of? (I'm not asking you personally, it's rhetorical.) It's just something I thought about a lot while I stayed in bed healing.


37 posted on 03/06/2005 1:14:28 PM PST by Ohioan from Florida (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.- Edmund Burke)
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To: Houmatt

I will always be curious as to what shape Terri would be in today if she had been allowed the therapy she was entitled to.


38 posted on 03/06/2005 1:17:16 PM PST by freekitty
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To: Hildy
we can't. All I'm saying, and have always said, is that it should be up to the patient him/herself.

If Terri was asked (and taped), in front of unbiased persons, I think it would be a solution. But we both know that won't be allowed. Unfortunately.

39 posted on 03/06/2005 1:17:58 PM PST by DJ MacWoW ("Are you cops? FBI" bad guy, "I'm currently unemployed" Tony Almeida of 24)
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To: Ohioan from Florida

Some people just don't have the will...why make them suffer? why? Why not let their inner spirit free? And you are absolutely wrong about most people being able to deal with it. You're wrong. But why can't we just respect people enough to not second guess their wishes? That's all I ask.


40 posted on 03/06/2005 1:19:04 PM PST by Hildy
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