[cloud8]

> Carly's attitude in fact is symptomatic of the attitudes of many Harvard MBA trained types in management who lead technical companies and who don't themselves have a technical background...

Tell me about it! The B-school clown to whom our company was entrusted boasted, boasted that he hadn't written any code in 10 years, and that he wasn't about to learn about ours. The company went under within 10 months.

Women *can* make effective CEOs. Martha Stewart, for example (passing over the recent unpleasantness). Carly just wasn't one of them.

[Dat Mon]

"The B-school clown to whom our company was entrusted boasted, boasted that he hadn't written any code in 10 years, and that he wasn't about to learn about ours."

Perfect illustration of a bad management attitude!

Right now, in terms of the management - engineer employer relationship, its a buyers market, and many management types are taking advantage of it.

I know of one manufacturing engineer for a major Fortune 500 company who was advised...no make that ordered...to train or 'instruct' their Chinese counterpart in everything they had accumulated over their career in knowledge, experience, production tuning techniques, personal tricks of the trade...everything that made them an exceptional performer....just give it away.

The manager directed the employee in this with a cavalier attitude that spoke volumes.