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1 posted on 03/06/2005 6:39:15 AM PST by Pendragon_6
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Hmmm, who to believe - our US military men/women, or an avowed America-loathing Communist?


2 posted on 03/06/2005 6:40:28 AM PST by over3Owithabrain
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This scuzz is a flat-out LIAR.


4 posted on 03/06/2005 6:46:33 AM PST by Salvey
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BUMP


6 posted on 03/06/2005 6:50:36 AM PST by SweetCaroline (I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me...Philippians 4:13)
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one of the posts that i read yesterday on this forum conveniently dropped the modifier "high rate of" from "speed".

what's that tell you?

this is a commie bang on the u.s. military and center-right government.


9 posted on 03/06/2005 6:52:35 AM PST by ken21 ( warning: a blood bath when rehnquist, et al retire. >hang w dubya.< dems want 2 divide us.)
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Her newspaper is a Communist newspaper. The name gives it away. Any doubt that she'd lie to make the US look bad?


16 posted on 03/06/2005 7:31:28 AM PST by Doctor Raoul (Support Our Troops, Spit On A Reporter)
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The word "collaborator" keeps popping in my head whenever I read about this event.


17 posted on 03/06/2005 7:39:19 AM PST by BallyBill (I'm a God fearing man and with many I stand....)
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Communist Party of Great Britain - for socialism, for communism
... Italian communist and journalist Giuliana Sgrena has been kidnapped in Iraq
at the beginning of February. Click here to support an appeal for her ...
www.cpgb.org.uk/ - 25k - Cached - Similar pages


18 posted on 03/06/2005 7:43:00 AM PST by Rome2000 (Peace is not an option)
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I wanna get my theory in here that her "abduction" was just a way to funnel money to her Islamofascist Terrorist buddies. With or without the knowledge of some in the Italian Government.


21 posted on 03/06/2005 7:57:45 AM PST by PLMerite ("Unarmed, one can only flee from Evil. But Evil isn't overcome by fleeing from it." Jeff Cooper)
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In a German version of this story they quote Sgrena:

We weren't sure at first where the shots were coming from, she said. "It wasn't the checkpoint, but a patrol that fired at us after they had beamed a spotlight on us."

"Uns war zuerst überhaupt nicht klar, woher die Schüsse kamen", sagte sie. "Es war nicht der Kontrollpunkt, sondern eine Patrouille, die auf uns schoss, nachdem sie uns mit einem Scheinwerfer angestrahlt hatte."

further....

Fire and bullets rained down on us and silenced the happy mood forever", Sgrena wrote for her newspaper from the hospital. The driver called out that they were Italian. Then Calipari threw himself over her and " I immediately felt his last breath as he died", she wrote further. In that moment she remembered the words of her captives who warned her to be very cautious, "Because the Americans don't want you to return".

"Feuer und Kugeln regneten auf uns nieder und brachten die fröhlichen Stimmen für immer zum Schweigen", schrieb Sgrena für ihre Zeitung aus dem Krankenhaus. Der Fahrer habe gerufen, dass sie Italiener seien. Dann habe sich Calipari über sie geworfen und "sofort habe ich seinen letzten Atemzug gespürt, als er starb", schrieb sie weiter. In diesem Moment habe sie sich an die Worte ihrer Entführer erinnert, die sie zu größter Vorsicht ermahnt hätten, "weil die Amerikaner nicht wollen, dass du zurückkehrst".

and, in another paragraph....

A feelance employee for the TV station Al Jazeera eventually handed over Sgrena to the Italian secret service personell, reported "Corriere della Sera". A spokesman for the station denied that. A half hour after the hand over the deadly shots were fired.

Ein freier Mitarbeiter des arabischen Fernsehsenders al Dschasira habe Sgrena schließlich den italienischen Geheimdienstmitarbeitern übergeben, berichtete "Corriere della Sera". Ein Sprecher des Senders wies das zurück. Gut eine halbe Stunde nach der Übergabe kam es zu den tödlichen Schüssen auf den Wagen.

My translation.

"Spiegel-Online"...."Zeit"-Chefredakteur zweifelt an US-Angaben

Yesterday I read that Sgrena was handed over at about 5 PM. I think the attack was at about 9 PM, is that correct?

There's a lot here that doesn't add up. It seems like embellishments are being added to create doubts about the American story and to promote the 'Americans are targetting journalists' angle. Eason Jordan's revenge?

I also question if the magazine paid the ransom rather than the government.

longjack

22 posted on 03/06/2005 8:18:07 AM PST by longjack
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I'm in Dublin this week, and the news coverage from CNN International is nothing short of disgraceful. They are even more biased than the US version. They present, as their TOP story, this lying C's comments at face value. NO mention that she's a commie or anything else.


23 posted on 03/06/2005 8:23:11 AM PST by NYC Republican
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I'm in Dublin this week, and the news coverage from CNN International is nothing short of disgraceful. They are even more biased than the US version. They present, as their TOP story, this lying C's comments at face value. NO mention that she's a commie or anything else.


24 posted on 03/06/2005 8:25:29 AM PST by NYC Republican
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By the way, why isn't the US coming out and discrediting this commie C?


30 posted on 03/06/2005 12:21:05 PM PST by NYC Republican
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By the way, why isn't the US coming out and discrediting this commie C?


32 posted on 03/06/2005 12:30:44 PM PST by NYC Republican
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