Posted on 03/05/2005 11:57:09 PM PST by FairOpinion
BERLIN - Islamic terror groups are becoming increasingly active in Germany and coordinating with militants across Europe to recruit fighters to join the insurgency in Iraq (news - web sites), equipping them with fake passports, money and medical supplies, security officials say.
One of the best examples of the cross-continent cooperation involves an Algerian man arrested in Germany and now on trial in Italy for allegedly helping Muslims from Somalia, Egypt, Iraq and Morocco recruit some 200 militants from around Europe to fight in Iraq.
Many in Germany's Islamic communities have shown sympathy for Muslims fighting jihad, or holy war, in places like Chechnya (news - web sites) or Bosnia, but authorities say a growing number of sympathizers are taking an active role themselves since the 2003 U.S.-led invasion of Iraq.
"The war in Iraq has somehow mobilized this scene so that people who before just had some sort of contact or sympathies with extremist groups now think they have to do something," Manfred Murck, deputy head of the Hamburg government agency that tracks extremists, told The Associated Press.
"It's a main topic that brings people to action that they otherwise might not have taken. In past years they were talking about jihad, but not doing anything."
Ansar al-Islam, a group with links to al-Qaida and Jordanian terrorist Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, who is leading attacks on U.S. and Iraqi security forces in Iraq, has been under scrutiny for its efforts to channel money and fighters to Iraq from Germany and other European countries.
Though most German attention immediately following al-Qaida's Sept. 11 attacks was on Hamburg — where three of the four suicide hijackers had lived and studied — recent efforts have broadened across the country and continent.
In December, three suspected members of Ansar al-Islam were arrested in Berlin on charges of plotting to assassinate interim Iraqi Prime Minister Ayad Allawi during a visit to Berlin in what authorities believe was a spontaneous plan based on opportunity.
Lokman Armin Mohammed, an Iraqi, was indicted last year in Munich on charges he provided logistical, financial and recruiting support for Ansar al-Islam, allegedly organizing medical equipment for insurgents and the passage of men to join the fight. Still awaiting trial after his 2003 arrest, Mohammed also is accused of being responsible for secretly bringing seriously injured insurgents back through Italy and across France for treatment in Britain.
"The Islamist scene in Germany is very well-connected, and not only in Germany," a senior German intelligence official told AP on condition of anonymity. "Muslim activities are more globalist — more pan-European — than Europeans are."
Murck, the Hamburg official, cited the example of Algerian Abderrazak Mahdjoub as an indication of cross-border connections at work within Ansar al-Islam. He was arrested in Hamburg in November 2003 on an Italian warrant and extradited to Milan in March 2004.
Mahdjoub went on trial in Milan in February on charges he collaborated with Somali Ciise Maxamed Cabdullaah, Egyptian El Ayashi Radi, Moroccan Housni Jamal and Iraqi Amin Mostafa Mohamed to recruit some 200 militants from around Europe to fight in Iraq for Ansar al-Islam.
Mahdjoub was arrested in Syria days before the U.S. invasion of Iraq in 2003 and deported back to Germany, where he was investigated. However, charges were never brought for lack of evidence.
"He tried to go to Iraq and we assumed he was intending to fight there, but then other investigations, especially in Italy, found out he was part of a structure recruiting for Iraq," Murck said.
Murck said he had no solid numbers for how many people might have gone from Germany to fight in Iraq, but added that it did not appear to be many.
"If you look at Hamburg, you can count them on two hands — those who have gone or who tried to go," he said.
European anti-terrorist officials have estimated that perhaps a few hundred militants have gone to Iraq as a result of recruiting efforts on the continent, mostly Muslims whose families immigrated from the Middle East or North Africa.
In another major German case, 15 suspects — some connected with Ansar al-Islam and Al-Tawhid, another terror group linked to al-Zarqawi — were picked up in nationwide raids in mid-January centering on the southern twin cities of Ulm and Neu-Ulm. The suspects included nationals of Germany, Egypt, Tunisia, Algeria, Libya and Bulgaria.
Authorities alleged the network raised an unspecified amount of money, produced fake passports and recruited people for jihad.
At the end of January, two other suspected al-Qaida members were arrested in Mainz and Bonn on allegations they were plotting an attack in Iraq. The pair were identified only as Ibrahim Mohamed K., a 29-year-old Iraqi, and Yasser Abu S., a 31-year-old Palestinian.
The Iraqi allegedly trained at Osama bin Laden (news - web sites)'s camps in Afghanistan (news - web sites) and fought American forces there. He is accused of recruiting suicide attackers in Germany — including the Palestinian — and providing logistical help to al-Qaida.
"Germany is not the main target of militant Islamist operations — today's line goes from Germany or other European countries to Iraq," said Rolf Tophoven, an expert at the Essen-based Institute for Terrorism Research and Security Issues.
"They try to recruit and bring potential suiciders — potential terrorists — together and they will send them from Germany to Iraq to fight against the allied forces under the leadership of the United States."
There's only sketchy evidence that any of the recruited radicals have returned to Europe from fighting in Iraq, but that remains a top fear, Tophoven said.
"The big threat is that they will eventually come back to European countries and they will come back with an image, with a reputation as heroes who fought the unbelievers, as it was in the war against the former Soviet Union in Afghanistan," he said.
"If they do, they come back from Iraq trained, they know how to fight, they know how to do an ambush, how to make a bomb, and so on, and intelligence is afraid of these developments."
In short...., OBL is a chicken shit punk, whose days are numbered. I know it's been three years since 9/11, but OBL and his closest advisers have sustained a serious blow.
Jayson over at polipundit.com nailed this one. If they are searching the EU they must be running out of suckers in Iraq. Sound about right to me. There will always be a couple ready to die on a muslim holiday :(
Gen. Abizaid said, that in the recent car bombing, they found the "suicide bomber" chained to the car.
FoxNews had the clip, but I didn't see it or read about it anywhere else.
And it looks like they are not getting a lot of volunteers from Europe either:
"Murck said he had no solid numbers for how many people might have gone from Germany to fight in Iraq, but added that it did not appear to be many.
"If you look at Hamburg, you can count them on two hands — those who have gone or who tried to go," he said.
And that correlates with the fact that so many of them have been wasted in Iraq that Paradise is running uot of virgins.
has anyone seen an estimate or hard numbers on total "insurgent" casualties ?
FYI
Thanks for the illustration.
Exactly right -- we used Iraq as a flypaper -- we rather fight the terrorits over there, than over here.
Too bad this Hamas KKK looking fanatic did not push the button as this photo was taken.
I hadn't heard that one. I did hear the one where they told the guy he was just going to drop off the truck to another driver up around the corner , when he stopped BOOM. He lived . And was mad, you probably saw it.
But this does add up to a bleak picture for the bad guys. Not that it ever wasn't .
Flypaper !!! It works !
Well, I haven't seen numbers about terrorist casualties, but I remember that at the beginning there was estimates of some 15 to up to 40,000 terrorists.
Gen. Abizaid said that based on the attacks on the day of the Iraqi election, when the terrorists "pulled out all the stops", they estimated that there are only around 3,500 terrorists around.
You do the subtraction.
I think that some actually gave up and blended into the population and "gave up their evil ways", but I bet a lot of them are no longer with us.
if those numbers are even close to being accurate, there are a lot of new residents in "paradise". thanks
"I did hear the one where they told the guy he was just going to drop off the truck to another driver up around the corner , when he stopped BOOM. He lived . And was mad, you probably saw it."
I hadn't heard that one.
Notice, how the MSM downplays these events, so as not to destroy the morale of the terrorists, whatever there is left of them, but they cheerfully report and distort things, which result in hurting the morale of our troops.
But despite of the MSM, the terrorists ARE losing, and the MSM won't be able to keep ignoring it much longer.
Also haven't they had to raise the price for the so called suicide bomber's to $100,000.?
Between freedom and flypaper the terrorist are disappearing.
I said this prior to the U.S. elections in November. Not quite like that...I said Bush has concentrated a large number of global terrorists into one place and it's a place where U.S. forces are massed. I don't know if he ever intended that, but it's brilliant.
I've also said to many naysayers on here that this is going to work and people need to be patient.
I guess I get to gloat just a little now. :-)
It's still active, but things are most definitely improving in Iraq.
But then the spin will be:
"They never really were much of a threat"
"Isn't it amazing how the Democrats in Congress and Liberals in Europe put an end to all this terrorism despite the bullying hegemony of the Bush administration?"
"Imagine how much sooner the terrorists would have been defeated if we weren't distracted by invading Iraq. Or if the French and Germans were allowed to participate. Or if Bill Clinton were still president."
I think the (typical and tired MSM) spin that recruiting is more successful in Europe because of Iraq is pure b.s. Everything I've read is that the non-Iraqi insurgents are almost entirely from neighboring countries. Fighting the U.S. ain't nothing -- in terms of rewards and, especially, of punishments -- like fighting the Russians (low morale, inept, ill equipped) or the Bosnian Serbs (corrupt, thuggish, ill disciplined). In most places where your itinerant islamists go jihading they can preen and posture as heroes, and much of the population treats them as such, or did in recent years. That ain't the case in Iraq. Their support is rapidly evaporating even in Sunni regions since the transfer of sovereignty and then the elections. Arab media is increasingly turning against them as well. Young men, particularly from tribalistic or "honor" cultures like those associated with Islam, won't make sacrifices if they can't be heroes, and perceived as such.
I'm no expert in any sense, but for whatever it's worth a year ago I would have guessed it would take 5 to 10 years to completely defeat the Iraqi insurgency. Now I'd guess 2 or 3 max. I'd also bet there will henceforth be a steady decline in insurgent/terrorist activity, with few if any significant rallies.
Again, I'm no expert, but I've found in pretty safe to far to assume the opposite of what the MSM predicts.
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