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Italian journalist Sgrena reveals details of shooting, 700m from Baghdad airport
repubblica ^ | March 05

Posted on 03/05/2005 4:42:38 AM PST by Truth666

Lots of information pouring in:

13:04 Sgrena contradicts the US: the car wasn't speeding

13:11 americans knew we were coming -they were 700 meters away from the airport, which meant they passed already all the controls

13:19 shooting took place while italians had the italian government (Palazzo Chigi ) in the mobile phones


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: hostages; iraq; italy; journalist; sgrena
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To: arasina
More on Sgrena from this link:

500,000 protesters marched through intermittent rain and wind in Rome Feb. 19 calling for an end to the war against Iraq and the occupation. The demonstrators also called for the freeing of Giuliana Sgrena, a journalist for the independent pro-communist daily "Il Manifesto," and other hostages. Sgrena is a long-time leader of the feminist and anti-war movements in Italy...

...Other demonstrators carried blow-ups of photos taken by Sgrena during her reporting in Iraq over the last two years of the countless civilian victims of the U.S. war, including the many young children who are victims of U.S. cluster bombs.

61 posted on 03/05/2005 6:01:14 AM PST by mewzilla (Has CBS retracted the story yet?)
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To: mewzilla
I can't believe it was stupidity. Which makes me very curious about the real reason.

Oh, I see your point. I wasn't clear. (I work 7 days a week and I have Terminal Tiredness Syndrome. LOL)

I suspect there is a shady reason for their attempt to blow through a checkpoint. What I meant was, for whatever reason, it's just stupid to try to blow through one of those things.

It's quite potentially deadly.

62 posted on 03/05/2005 6:01:21 AM PST by Allegra (LIVE From Where History Began...and Continues...)
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To: LoudRepublicangirl; AmericanInTokyo

Much about this case reminds me of the phoney kidnapping/hostage incident involving Japanese "hostages." Some here wonder if this particular hostage was trying to smuggle out someone on our wanted list--and I wonder about that too--but mostly I suspect that this was staged to happen as it did for propaganda purposes.


63 posted on 03/05/2005 6:02:44 AM PST by MizSterious (First, the journalists, THEN the lawyers.)
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To: Allegra
Oh, I see your point. I wasn't clear. (I work 7 days a week and I have Terminal Tiredness Syndrome. LOL)

Allegra, you have nothing to apologize for. But you do have my thanks. And here's hoping you can get some quality shut-eye soon :)

64 posted on 03/05/2005 6:06:21 AM PST by mewzilla (Has CBS retracted the story yet?)
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To: longjack

she's no girl. what re they saying, we shot her intentionally. We're very sorry about the situation, but this is war, not a game.


65 posted on 03/05/2005 6:08:51 AM PST by johnb838 ("You Have Ruled, Now Let Us See You Enforce" Need some wood?)
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To: Allegra
I've been stopped for random K9 vehicle searches at checkpoints near Baghdad Airport twice and I'm always as accommodating as I can be. They have guns. I don't. ;-)

After hearing my son talk about his experiences doing guard duty at Anaconda, I believe I would be accommodating to the point of obsequiousness... even without warning signs, sudden flashing lights, bullets impacting the road in front of my vehicle...

This one doesn't sound right.

66 posted on 03/05/2005 6:10:21 AM PST by niteowl77
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To: mewzilla

Yeah, why all this official anger? Like it's some kind of international incident? It's tragic, we're sorry, but I'm confident our troops behaved properly.


67 posted on 03/05/2005 6:14:00 AM PST by johnb838 ("You Have Ruled, Now Let Us See You Enforce" Need some wood?)
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To: mewzilla

There are some loser Americans who rallied on behalf of the flattened idiot, Rachel Corrie -- they are probably comparable to the Italians who protest for commie Sgrena.


68 posted on 03/05/2005 6:14:27 AM PST by ValerieUSA
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To: mewzilla

And by "sorry" I mean we're officially "sorrowful", not apologizing.


69 posted on 03/05/2005 6:14:36 AM PST by johnb838 ("You Have Ruled, Now Let Us See You Enforce" Need some wood?)
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To: Cold Heat

Anti-war activist COMMUNIST journalist. Communists are not legitimate, IMO. It's bull. Like saying HAMAS is a legitimate political party.


70 posted on 03/05/2005 6:15:54 AM PST by johnb838 ("You Have Ruled, Now Let Us See You Enforce" Need some wood?)
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To: johnb838
A certain amount of it is posturing, but the more the Italians holler about it, the more they'll keep the story in the news. And more questions will be asked. Which is why I expect that the Italians will clam up shortly.
71 posted on 03/05/2005 6:16:00 AM PST by mewzilla (Has CBS retracted the story yet?)
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To: johnb838
Communists are not legitimate, IMO

LOL, I guess we forgot to tell Europe!

72 posted on 03/05/2005 6:18:40 AM PST by Cold Heat (This space is being paid not to do anything.)
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To: johnb838
Well, I'm sure we are sorry, and equally sure that if we have anything to apologize for we'll do it and mean it. We don't regard the loss and/or taking of life as a joke. But that said, the Italians have some explaining of their own to do. And it will be interesting to see if they do it.
73 posted on 03/05/2005 6:19:04 AM PST by mewzilla (Has CBS retracted the story yet?)
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To: Allegra

It just makes no sense. Therefore, I don't believe the story.


74 posted on 03/05/2005 6:19:13 AM PST by johnb838 ("You Have Ruled, Now Let Us See You Enforce" Need some wood?)
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To: johnb838
At any rate, this will be another TEST FOR THE U.S. ADMINISTRATION.

Are they going to tell them to just STFU, get out of our face, that we are BUSY in Iraq, and to go urinate up a rope?

Or, are they going to be POLITICALLY CORRECT, urged by pansies in the State Department to play this big Italian game, waste our time, get the subject off of Growing Democracy in Iraq, and on to the saga of some stupid, Anti-Americn Communist Italian getting shot by our boys doing their duties?

President Bush and his State Department, which one will it be?

75 posted on 03/05/2005 6:19:33 AM PST by AmericanInTokyo (Illegal Aliens "Those Wonderful People" in Jail Now Are $1.4 Billion A Year For California Taxpayers)
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To: Bahbah

"This woman is a communist."

Yes, and a real life, long time commie. Not like some college age flake. There may be mistakes made on both sides, or this lady may be less than kosher, like those other two Italian reporterettes.


76 posted on 03/05/2005 6:20:09 AM PST by jocon307 (Vote George Washington for the #1 spot)
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To: Truth666
As we speak, I'll bet the U.S. military analysts are poring over all bits and pieces of personal effects, baggage and paper for any exculpatory evidence to be found in the smashed car.

The results may be very interesting.

(......note to self: patience, patience, patience......)

Leni

77 posted on 03/05/2005 6:20:56 AM PST by MinuteGal
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To: Cold Heat

I'm coming dangerously close to finding the whole of Europe to be illegitimate.


78 posted on 03/05/2005 6:25:03 AM PST by johnb838 ("You Have Ruled, Now Let Us See You Enforce" Need some wood?)
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To: Truth666

"Somebody didn't get the word." That has happened since there have been military operations. Either the Italians or the senior American military didn't get the word out but the troopers at the check point were doing their job.
They can't assume much, it's a war zone.


79 posted on 03/05/2005 6:26:04 AM PST by em2vn
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To: AmericanInTokyo
and to go urinate up a rope?

One of my late Father's favorite expressions. I always wondered where it came from. I assumed it was a regional, or Navy expression.

80 posted on 03/05/2005 6:27:50 AM PST by Cold Heat (This space is being paid not to do anything.)
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