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China warns Taiwan against `creeping independence'
Knight Ridder Newspapers ^ | Fri, Mar 04, 2005 1 hour, 40 minutes ago | By Tim Johnson, Knight Ridder Newspapers

Posted on 03/04/2005 2:58:38 PM PST by Tulsa Ramjet

BEIJING - In measured but resolute terms, China's leader warned Taiwan on Friday against pursuing "creeping independence" and said Beijing would thwart any step by the independently ruled island toward declaring sovereignty.

President Hu Jintao spoke as legislators gathered to consider a draft law that would codify China's legal right to attack Taiwan and seek unification by military means.

"We will never tolerate Taiwan independence and never allow the Taiwan independence forces to make Taiwan secede from the motherland under any name or by any means," Hu told a preliminary session before Saturday's start of an annual 10-day meeting of the rubber-stamp National People's Congress.

Military tensions across the strait are high. Taiwan says China has 706 short-range ballistic missiles aimed at the island. China announced Friday that it's boosting military spending by 12.6 percent this year to about $30 billion.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: china; chinataiwan; taiwan
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Ego. An interesting purpose for war.
1 posted on 03/04/2005 2:58:38 PM PST by Tulsa Ramjet
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To: Tulsa Ramjet

I'm sure the Chinese look at Taiwan like Lincoln looked at the Confederacy.


2 posted on 03/04/2005 3:01:13 PM PST by bikepacker67 ("Donovan McNabb... I can't HEAR YOU" < / Who's your Mommy>)
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To: Quix

ping.


3 posted on 03/04/2005 3:02:51 PM PST by JockoManning (www.biblegateway.com)
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To: bikepacker67

except this "confederacy" has stated support from a formidable ally.


4 posted on 03/04/2005 3:03:36 PM PST by Tulsa Ramjet
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To: Tulsa Ramjet

And the Tiawanese haven't enslaved anyone.

Oh, and the mainland is a Communist oligarchy.

:P


5 posted on 03/04/2005 3:05:06 PM PST by Constantine XIII
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To: Tulsa Ramjet

who merely offers to provide a means by which Taiwan can put up a defense, not necessarily direct American military involvement.


6 posted on 03/04/2005 3:07:22 PM PST by paulmartin
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To: paulmartin

I think we will all be surprised on what would and would not happen if things escalated.


7 posted on 03/04/2005 3:10:59 PM PST by Tulsa Ramjet
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Come on Tancredo...open your ignorant mouth now, take up a gun and go fight for taiwan.


8 posted on 03/04/2005 3:13:02 PM PST by Alex Marko
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To: Tulsa Ramjet
as legislators gathered to consider a draft law that would codify China's legal right to attack Taiwan and seek unification by military means.

War! It's the LAW!

Unification by military means, presumably some
"re-education" will be in order, some "self criticism",
perhaps some "reordering" of the means of production,
of those people and facilities that are left standing.

Do you think they will suspend Habeas Corpus?
9 posted on 03/04/2005 3:20:28 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: bikepacker67

Except that mainland China was the Confederacy in this instance.


10 posted on 03/04/2005 3:22:17 PM PST by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservative.)
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To: tet68

there would be a lot of corpuses, and habeas will have left town.


11 posted on 03/04/2005 3:23:29 PM PST by Tulsa Ramjet
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To: bikepacker67
I'm sure the Chinese look at Taiwan like Lincoln looked at the Confederacy.

Nonsense.

They do not.

Taiwan was part of Japan when they started the civil war in China. Taiwan had nothing to do with the Chinese civil war.

12 posted on 03/04/2005 3:26:00 PM PST by tallhappy (Juntos Podemos!)
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I fear you are correct sir.

One can only await the news that Taiwanese forces
have attacked and taken over a radio station at Gleiwitz
on August 31st.


13 posted on 03/04/2005 3:29:35 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Tulsa Ramjet
"We will never tolerate Taiwan independence and never allow the Taiwan independence forces to make Taiwan secede from the motherland under any name or by any means"
This is China misinformation and B.S.: China never controlled or had an interest in Taiwan until Chang Chi Cheq?? went there to escape death during the Communist takeover of China. China has never gotten over the fact that his (Chang) and subsequent dem. govt in Taiwan has out produced and literally embarrassed the great communist China HOAX. CHINA has lost face in front of the whole world because of the success of the Taiwanese govt. They think to save face by taking back Taiwan which they never ever controlled. The Chinese govt is a liar. The U.S. media and govt. is complicit in keeping this lie before the American People.
14 posted on 03/04/2005 3:36:40 PM PST by clearsight
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To: clearsight

as opposed to a warning about creepy chinese.


15 posted on 03/04/2005 3:38:14 PM PST by samadams2000
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To: tet68

very astute.


16 posted on 03/04/2005 3:39:11 PM PST by Tulsa Ramjet
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To: bikepacker67
I'm sure the Chinese look at Taiwan like Lincoln looked at the Confederacy.

Not the same thing at all. The Red Chinese overthrew the Nationalist government on the mainland. But they never ruled Taiwan. Lincoln was elected President in an election in which the Southern states took part. However, his election was the straw the broke the camels back, so to speak, and finally convined the South to try to seceed.

17 posted on 03/04/2005 4:06:39 PM PST by El Gato (Activist Judges can twist the Constitution into anything they want ... or so they think.)
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To: Alex Marko

A policy of helping Taiwan maintain it's independence has much more legitimacy than opening our borders to every group that seeks to infiltrate our society....and has far more importance than invading nations full of towel-heads looking for weapons of "mass destruction" that aren't there...Tancredo is far smarter than the bumpkin in the White House we have now...


18 posted on 03/04/2005 4:16:27 PM PST by NATIVEDAUGHTER
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To: Tulsa Ramjet
Don't worry. Republic of China is alive and well on Taiwan. The Taiwan independence supporters are in full-retreat and wasting time fighting among themselves.

Wait 20 years and mainland will become democratic and maybe even modeled after the democratic ROC. Those old communist and Taiwan independence supporters will be long gone.
19 posted on 03/04/2005 5:04:16 PM PST by Fishing-guy
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To: Tulsa Ramjet
Taiwan is the best evidence that the leaders of China are basically out of their minds. They are megalomaniacs. Tiananmen Square was not a miscalculation. It is what they are.

They could make China into an economic powerhouse if they want. Instead they are obsessed with subjugating Taiwan and may be willing to risk all to do it. They think they can defeat the US in this (if not now then in the foreseeable future) and earn their superpower credentials this way.
20 posted on 03/04/2005 5:14:07 PM PST by ml1954
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