[RS]

" ...which has always benefited from assimilation, not isolation of its many ethnic and religious groups."

If they are truly assimilated, then they are not groups anymore.

"Who was doing the grouping in that instance, Gondring? "

One could surmise that it was those that forced them into the group by attacking them as a group, and the media, who decided which group leaders to take statements from.


"I find the gloating about the possible unexpected turn in the case disturbng."

I didn't notice gloating, simply some vindication that NOT jumping to conclusions was the correct course in this case.


"Those on this thread who seek to brand us as bigots for suspecting an islamic tie-in ...."

The label seems to fit those who did not merely suspect, but vocally accused, and others who did not care, but simply used the threads to repost attack messages.

"But I will not apologize, because there was enough evidence, brought on by behavior on the internet and elsewhere, to believe this was an islamic hate crime."

There was NO evidence, simply unsupported, and in many cases anonymous, statements by those who had an obvious bias in the case.
In many threads it appeared that a lynch-mob mentality had taken over, using terrorist style posters and slogans to excite the masses while abandoning reason.

[ariamne]

"One could surmise that it was those that forced them into the group by attacking them as a group, and the media, who decided which group leaders to take statements from."
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I don't know if you are deliberately misunderstanding; but I referring to people who group themselves in insular communities as a lifestyle, not in reference to this specific crime.

Islamic people who live in insular communities as such are not forced into living that way, alienated and non-assimilated from non-islamic peoples. It is a chosen lifestyle and is detrimental to them and to their non-islamic neighbors as it breeds mistrust and lack of cultural understanding.

But it is of course, their choice.

[ariamne]

"There was NO evidence, simply unsupported, and in many cases anonymous, statements by those who had an obvious bias in the case.
In many threads it appeared that a lynch-mob mentality had taken over, using terrorist style posters and slogans to excite the masses while abandoning reason"
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Not true. Armanious and his family were threatened with death in an internet chat room called Pal-Talk. The poster said they would be killed like chickens.

Face it, that kind of hateful spew is the lynch mob mentality. I would call threatening to kill someone's family like chickens because you don't like what they say about your religion to be abandoning reason.

You've got the right adjectives, but they apply equally to the islamic creeps who threatened Armanious. Without the hate in the form of death threats from someone (or more than one) in the islamic community for this family there would have been no reason to think it was a hate crime.

That's where it started. Own it.