Neighbor, other man charged in slaying of Jersey City family

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[Selkie]

By WAYNE PARRY The Associated Press

JERSEY CITY, N.J. - The upstairs neighbor of an Egyptian Christian family found slain in their home in January was charged Friday, along with another man, in the murders.

Edward McDonald, 25, who rented a second-floor apartment above Hossam Armanious and his family, pleaded not guilty to four counts of felony murder. Hamilton Sanchez, 30, faces the same charges and also pleaded not guilty.

Sanchez during a court hearing began crying as he stood before a judge, his hands cuffed behind his back.

"I didn't kill nobody. I didn't kill nobody, man. I didn't kill nobody, people," Sanchez said, as he was led from the courtroom. McDonald stared at the floor during the hearing.

Both men, who were on parole for different drug offenses, were ordered held on $10 million cash bail.

Authorities said Armanious, 47; his wife, Amal Garas, 37, and their children - Sylvia, 15, and Monica, 8 - were slain three days before their bodies were found Jan. 14.

[Fred Nerks]

So do I, so do I.
Sometimes I think we love our little creatures more than islam loves its women and children.
Did you know mohammad was abandoned by his mother as a child? I often wonder if islam's hatred of women doesn't have it's roots right there. Woman hatred. Often stems from childhood experience. No loving, no nurturing in his background, no warmth, no affection. His uncle, who took charge of him died and left him an orphan. That's a very poor background upon which to establish a 'religion' - the man mohammad was trying to get even with a world that he believed had abandoned him. He was a misfit, an anarchist with no respect for the gods and the laws of his own people. There were many of his own followers who came to the conclusion he was mad; they called it jjin-possessed, and mohammad himself was afraid of the voices he heard in his head, he contemplated suicide several times. Mohammad doesn't need understanding as much as he needs analysis; that's what islam is most afraid of. That we will understand just who and what he was. I'll say it for the hundredth time, maybe the thousandth; read the biography. It's not sensational. It's simple. It tells the true story. And it uses ancient arabic sources that are irrefutable.

[Dark Skies]

But where are you coming from? You mention everyone on the planet but RS.

Are you Muslim or just anti-Christ.

Many have committed evil in the name of Christ...but He doesn't blame them or you.

Commit...what do you believe?

[RS]

"Yo, RS and Gondring...cut the crap...come over to a world that can actually define love."

Sounds like youre a Bahai ...maybe a Mormon, Jeovah's Witness ?

Sorry, but I'm simply not interested in what Islam thinks of love, and the only reading I've done of the koran is to research the so-called "quotes" posted here.

BTW - Jesus said all you have to do is believe in him to be saved, so I'm gonna be really pissed if he dosen't come through.

[TexasCowboy]

I will always defend my God and my country. I find them inseparable. This country was founded under the principles established with the Ten Commandments handed down to Moses.

James Madison, the fourth president, known as "The Father of Our Constitution" made the following statement:

"We have staked the whole of all our political institutions upon the capacity of mankind for self-government, upon the capacity of each and all of us to govern ourselves, to control ourselves, to sustain ourselves according to the Ten Commandments of God."

"We pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."

Our nation was, is, and always will be UNDER GOD!
Not Allah!

[Dark Skies]

And Venus wants no competition.

Consider that there is more than just the dimension you can see with your eyeballs.

[TexasCowboy]

"There is more here than anyone wishes to admit to "

I think everyone is afraid that another Jack Ruby is out there.

[Dark Skies]

BTW - Jesus said all you have to do is believe in him to be saved, so I'm gonna be really pissed if he dosen't come through

Sorry, RS. Even Satan knows who Jesus is.

If you love Him (Jesus)...He left two commandments that sum up all the prophets...

"Love the Lord with all you heart and all your soul and all your mind...

and love your neighbor (your fellow man...Muslim and Jew and Christian and Atheist) as you love yourself."

That's Jesus...He's a sweetheart...and He is God!

[ariamne]

"The history of Islaam/muhammedanism is nothing but a history of the bloody and forceful proselytizing of neighboring villages, towns, city-states, and whole nations."
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Another excellent summation, counselor AAC. The blood soaked history of Islam is hard to put to the side, yet we must in cases like these to get at the truth. Which in the case of the Armanious family is still murky and shrouded in doubt.

[Fred Nerks]

Eyeballs? Venus, al-Uzzah, The Morning and Evening Star, the Fallen Angel, Lucifer. Beelzebub, Bal-Zevuv, Baal, Queen of Heaven, and that's just a few. Venus has many names world-wide, she was The Feathered Serpent Quetzecoatl to the Maya, Yahoo to the Chinese, Shiva in India, Thor the Thunder God...and the subject of the Ride of Prometheus through the sky, when he lost control of his father's horses, Venus, of whom the ancients write, 'she moved from her wanted place' and 'caused great destruction on earth' - Venus, the subject of the Australian oboriginal's tale of the Rainbow Serpent that created the mountains and rivers.
Venus, that once was a Comet. Venus, depicted on the flag of islam, above the crescent moon. Islam's al-Uzzah was a comet that became a planet. Islam's allah is al-Uzzah, the fearful planet Venus which almost destroyed the earth. And now I'm outa here, before someone throws rocks at me!

[RS]

"BTW - Jesus said all you have to do is believe in him to be saved, so I'm gonna be really pissed if he dosen't come through
Sorry, RS. Even Satan knows who Jesus is."

In Jn 11:25,26, Jesus said unto her, I AM THE RESURRECTION, AND THE LIFE: HE THAT BELIEVETH IN ME, THOUGH HE WERE DEAD, YET SHALL HE LIVE:

So Jesus LIED ? Well dosen't that just suck....

Glad you straightened me out on that, Dark Skies

[RS]

Yahoo to the chinese ?

[Gondring]

You have read the Qu'ran...try the New Testament...learn about love and be reborn...

Have spent many thousands times as long on the NT as I ever did with the Qu'ran. Know all about love, thanks. Do you? Why not show it?

A lot of people believe in it (Jesus)...what have you got to lose...give it a try (unless Islam prohibits it...and what does that tell you?).

Tells me that lots of people believe in it. Lots of people believe in Islam, too, but I don't think that's much of an advertisement for it!

what have you got to lose

My soul, if Setianism--or any of many other choices--is correct.

On that note...

(unless Islam prohibits it...and what does that tell you?).

I dunno...you tell me... Christianity prohibits worshiping the fertility goddess and Eros...what does that tell you? That Jesus is anti-love?

Besides, it seems that the following are true about the NT:

1. Christians are to avoid those who are apostate.
2. Without being a believer, you go to hell.
3. Therefore, Christians are instructed to act in a way that does not save a person from eternal torment.

How is this kinder than ending a person's mortal existence, like Muslims might do?

Aren't you at least curious?

Too much so, it seems.

[Gondring]

The blood soaked history of Islam is hard to put to the side, yet we must in cases like these to get at the truth. Which in the case of the Armanious family is still murky and shrouded in doubt.

On the mark, ariamne. :-)

[swordfish71]

"I think everyone is afraid that another Jack Ruby is out there"

Yup! That was exactly what my buudy was saying. These guys, either willingly or by coercion, are being made the fall guys. Nothing in these patsies make-up indicates ANY ability to carry out such a murder only to satify a drug itch---or money for drugs. The druggie MO is almost always very quick, and VERY dirty. This crime scene showed nothing but pure planning, not something a druggie is usually capable of.

This had all the hallmarks of a hit, and nothing else.

[Gondring]

The FBI was probably ordered to frame somebody to defuse the religious tension.

I choose Excedrin for those really tough religious tension headaches.

[Dark Skies]

RS...do you actually think Jesus would lie?

I am not trying to be cute or funny...

Consider that is you are wrong...you are risking eternity.

I have only offered friendship...you have offered anger.

Do you want to spend eternity with the father of anger or with the Father of Forgiveness. You may find this hard to fathom...but we love you and don't want to see you spend eternity with others who hate.

[Gondring]

And if someone stabbed someone else in the throat, I wouldn't say, "that's okay...Muslims would take the head right off!"

They are both barbaric and wrong....don't use relativism to justify hatred.

[Gondring]

I don't know if they would go for my "mandatory miniskirt on every woman under 30" rule, and my " No Fat Chicks " commandment.

Oh man, learn from my experience...Babism isn't what it sounds like. >shudder<

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[Fred Nerks]

Yep, Yahoo it was. The Emperor Yahoo was named after celestial events. But you wouldn't know that would you, you never read a book.

[RS]

"RS...do you actually think Jesus would lie?"

I didn't, until your statement seemed to prove he has - are you saying you were wrong ?



"I have only offered friendship..."

Sorry I didn't realize this "Have you stopped beating your wife" type of question was an act of friendship. My "enemies" usually pose questions in that fashion.

"Are you Muslim or just anti-Christ."