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To: Rutles4Ever
The problem is, SCOTUS is basically immune to public opinion. Which can be a good thing or a bad thing. We can protest at SCOTUS until we are blue in the face - but I doubt Sandra Day O'Connor would care.

Now, if governors told SCOTUS that their ruling was illegitimate and carried no influence on their state perogatives, now THAT would get the attention of SCOTUS.

9 posted on 03/02/2005 1:29:25 PM PST by dirtboy (Drooling moron since 1998...)
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To: dirtboy
"The problem is, SCOTUS is basically immune to public opinion."


But, unfortunately, according to Justice Kennedy, not to international opinion.
37 posted on 03/02/2005 1:37:37 PM PST by NW Mike (Proud member of the VRWC since 1972 -- who the hell are you calling 'neo'?)
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To: dirtboy

I find it interesting when the judiciary tries to ORDER the legislative or executive branch to do or not do something. Under the principle of the seperation of powers, NEITHER branch is obligated to follow their ruling.


45 posted on 03/02/2005 1:39:16 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (God is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: dirtboy
The problem is, SCOTUS is basically immune to public opinion.

I think they TRY to present themselves as immune - but I very strongly suspect that they, in fact, are swayed by public opinion. Think back on the Massachusetts Supreeme court right after they made their outragous decisiojn re. Homosexual Marriage - there was a couple "justices" that made some public appearences trying to explain their reasons - I think that SCOTUS is just as vulnerable to public outrage. They have a legacy to try to protect.

A march is a very good idea - as long as there are some numbers behind it.

53 posted on 03/02/2005 1:42:09 PM PST by rface ("...the most schizoid freeper I've ever seen")
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To: dirtboy

SCOTUS basks in its power and glory -- if it is on the wrong side of elite opinion, the justices would care, but they care not if at odds with those of traditional values. Ford gave us Stevens; Reagan gave us O'Connor and Kennedy, and Bush I gave us Souter. That alone is 4/9 of the problem.


225 posted on 03/02/2005 3:52:49 PM PST by Theodore R. (Terri has already outlived Eleanor Centzone.)
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To: dirtboy

The problem is, SCOTUS is basically immune to public opinion. Which can be a good thing or a bad thing. We can protest at SCOTUS until we are blue in the face - but I doubt Sandra Day O'Connor would care.
Now, if governors told SCOTUS that their ruling was illegitimate and carried no influence on their state perogatives, now THAT would get the attention of SCOTUS.


Unfortunately, you are correct, when protestors come to DC, the congress and Scotus and Administration usually say "ho-hum" How many did they have? well the numbers are wrong anyway. Just send in the garbage men. Having lived there for 15 years and seeing many protests, and participating in several for Freerepublic and other Christian and Republican marches. Those that you are trying to influence, don't watch, or care. They just want the Mall cleaned up when the rif-raff is gone. If we were to do something like they did in the UKraine (sp) and Lebanannon, such as stay, camp out, stay, and camp out on the mall, we would get some attention from the SCOTUS, Congress and the Executive Branch. This is the only way to get their attention. A one day march on the Mall, will be waved away as more rif-raff, send in the garbage men to clean up their mess by morning. Permits would need to be gotten, if available, many folks would have to participate to make a difference, but staying and waving a special color flag would make it memorable.

I do like your idea about the Govenors of the States saying the SCOTUS Ruling is unconstitutional would be fantastic. Because it is, unconstitutional, several justices used International Law and unsigned treaties to try to justify their case, which is UNCONSTITUTIONAL IN THE AMERICAN GOVERNMENT! JUDGES ARE ONLY TO CONSIDER THE AMERICAN CONSTITUTION IN DETERMINING THEIR CASES, NOT LOOK TO GOOF-BALL INTERNATIONAL LAW, THAT IS IN ITSELF UNCONSTITUTIONAL.! THEREFORE, THIS CASE IS UNCONSTITUTIONAL AND SHOULD BE CONSIDERED NULL AND VOID!


298 posted on 03/02/2005 7:23:50 PM PST by Ethyl ( W)
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To: dirtboy
The Supreme Court does not even have an E-mail address. They simply do not care what the public thinks and do not care what the Constitution or the founders said. All that matters to them is their absolute power.

There are a host of ways to deal with this but all require a backbone on the part of our elected officials or a massive turnout by the public.

Amend the Constitution to stop any reference on foreign law

break up the 9th district

Have Congress remove some social issues from Court review

Cut their funding

Simply ignore their decisions

Now, do you think our cowardly politicians will do any of these things?

Individuals can only do one thing, cut off the money for our politicians. they ignore letters, public opinion, and simple public opinion. They jump right up and pay attention when the reelection checks stop arriving.
377 posted on 03/03/2005 10:13:33 AM PST by Jim Verdolini
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