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.50 Caliber Terror Alert
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Posted on 03/02/2005 3:41:31 AM PST by SLB

There needs to be a BS topic so we can add it.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bang; banglist; barrett; bigassguns; guns; rifle; sniper
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1 posted on 03/02/2005 3:41:31 AM PST by SLB
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To: Joe Brower; Squantos; FreedomPoster; Travis McGee; sit-rep; Morgan's Raider; Jeff Head

BTTT


2 posted on 03/02/2005 3:42:23 AM PST by SLB ("We must lay before Him what is in us, not what ought to be in us." C. S. Lewis)
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To: SLB
From the site, ".50 Caliber ammunition is the largest round available on the civilian market and highly destructive armor-piercing, incendiary, and explosive rounds are easily available."

I didn't realize that "armor-piercing, incendiary, and explosive rounds are easily available".
3 posted on 03/02/2005 3:44:34 AM PST by Texas_Jarhead
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To: SLB
Great Idea
4 posted on 03/02/2005 3:46:25 AM PST by Jeff Gordon (Recall Barbara Boxer)
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To: Texas_Jarhead
"I didn't realize that "armor-piercing, incendiary, and explosive rounds are easily available""

Yeah, I cook 'em up in my hall closet.
</sarcasm>

5 posted on 03/02/2005 3:49:12 AM PST by blues_guitarist (Black conservatives arise!)
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To: SLB

Wow! I'll bet there's a lot of Green Party folks out there who are scared sh*tless by the misinformation and silliness found on this website. That initial vid clip with the site coming to rest on the plane and then the sound of a shot being fired ... powerful imagery if you're a weenie.


6 posted on 03/02/2005 3:50:27 AM PST by SittinYonder (Tancredo and I wanna know what you believe)
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To: blues_guitarist

Who is behind that website?


7 posted on 03/02/2005 3:50:34 AM PST by happinesswithoutpeace
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To: Texas_Jarhead
I didn't realize that "armor-piercing, incendiary, and explosive rounds are easily available".

Yes, and they soon will be able to carry small nuclear warheads as well!

8 posted on 03/02/2005 3:51:02 AM PST by Erik Latranyi (9-11 is your Peace Dividend)
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To: SLB

At $2.00/round, the .50 is no bargain to shoot. I was out at the gun range and there was a guy trying to sight one in. It was hysterical. After ten shots the guy was flinching so badly he couldn't hit a two foot circle at 100 yards. As dusk approached there was this huge flame coming out with every shot. We could hear the guy bitching about spending so much on ammo. LOL!


9 posted on 03/02/2005 3:53:11 AM PST by Trteamer ( (Eat Meat, Wear Fur, Own Guns, FReep Leftists, Drive an SUV, Drill A.N.W.R., Drill the Gulf, Vote)
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To: happinesswithoutpeace
Mark Karlin & Associates
10 posted on 03/02/2005 3:54:48 AM PST by Flyer (The contents of this information is for your exclusive use and should not be forum curran)
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To: Erik Latranyi

As well as the "exploding bullets" that gun grabbers use their proxies in the MSM to "warn" the public about. A Glaser slug is designated as an "exploding round", wouldn't that make every glass vase or coffee mug an "explosive" because it will fragment upon impact if it falls off the breakfast table?


11 posted on 03/02/2005 3:56:36 AM PST by happinesswithoutpeace
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To: SLB

I'm highly uninformed on this topic. Are .50 cal rifles really legal to buy and own? And if so, what possible "sporting" use could one find for such a weapon?


12 posted on 03/02/2005 4:00:02 AM PST by georgiadevildog (Get to work. You aren't being paid to believe in the power of your dreams.)
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To: happinesswithoutpeace

You can't hunt with a glass vase don't you know...
/sarcasm


13 posted on 03/02/2005 4:01:41 AM PST by Flavius ("... we should reconnoitre assiduosly... " Vegetius)
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To: georgiadevildog
Owning guns, even .50 cals, in the United States ain't about "sports". Its about showing the government who is REALLY the boss!
14 posted on 03/02/2005 4:03:29 AM PST by Lockbar (March toward the sound of the guns.)
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To: georgiadevildog; SLB

Answers:

Yes, in most states.

What does "sporting use" have to do with the price of eggs? Although many people like to accurately place holes in things at very long distances, and consider doing so "sport".

.50 BMG rifles can be a wonderful instrument for doing this.


15 posted on 03/02/2005 4:04:43 AM PST by FreedomPoster (This space intentionally blank)
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To: Erik Latranyi
soon will be able to carry small nuclear warheads as well

Sooner than you think. :-)


16 posted on 03/02/2005 4:04:57 AM PST by Jeff Gordon (Recall Barbara Boxer)
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To: SLB
.50 Caliber Sniper Rifles were designed to attack parked or landing aircraft, armored personnel carriers, rail tank cars, bulk fuel storage, and concrete bunkers.

Yeah, but if you've ever seen a suicide bomber who took one of these rounds in the forehead it is quite the gory, but beeooootiful, sight.

17 posted on 03/02/2005 4:06:06 AM PST by Casloy
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To: georgiadevildog
And if so, what possible "sporting" use could one find for such a weapon?

You certainly weren't born in Georgia if you are asking a question like that. Sounds more a like northeastern progressive mindset composed that interrogative.

18 posted on 03/02/2005 4:08:15 AM PST by spodefly (This is my tag line. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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To: Jeff Gordon

Lawmakers seek ban on .50-caliber rifles


Monday, February 28, 2005

By Brian Mackey

of Copley News Service

SPRINGFIELD - Rifles that can accurately pierce half-inch armor from more than a mile away are as legal as most other firearms in Illinois, but several state lawmakers want them banned.
House Bill 1098 would make it a felony to manufacture, distribute, transport, import or sell .50-caliber rifles and ammunition. The bill would make it a misdemeanor to possess up to two of the weapons or any .50-caliber ammunition. The felony would be punishable by three to seven years in prison, while the legislation specifies a first offense of possession would be a "petty offense," punishable by a $500 fine.

The .50-caliber rifles can be up to 5 1/2 feet long, weigh 35 pounds and cost $2,500. The rounds are nearly 5 1/2 inches long, more than a half-inch in diameter and are available in armor-piercing and incendiary varieties.

Thomas Mannard, executive director of the Illinois Council Against Handgun Violence, portrayed the proposed ban as an anti-terrorism measure. He described the .50-caliber as the most powerful rifle available on the civilian market.

"It is so powerful that it threatens airplanes - taxiing on the runway, taking off or landing - from hundreds of yards away," Mannard said.

Gun-rights groups counter that the weapons have never been used in a crime. And National Rifle Association lobbyist Todd Vandermyde said couching the ban in the language of anti-terrorism was "fear mongering to try and create an issue where none exists."

Vandermyde said "Saturday night specials" and assault weapons were in vogue among gun-control activists a decade ago, and that the ban on .50-caliber weapons was just the "gun ban du jour."

Rep. Elaine Nekritz, D-Northbrook, is the bill's chief sponsor. She recounted the 1993 standoff between Branch Davidians and federal law enforcement agents at an armed compound in Waco, Texas, during which the Davidians fired .50-caliber rounds at agents. The government brought in armored Bradley fighting vehicles but found that even those could not stop the bullets.

"These are not hunting weapons. These are in fact weapons of war," said Rep. Harry Osterman, D-Chicago, a chief co-sponsor of the bill. He called the NRA's statement that no crime has ever been committed with a .50-caliber rifle an "interesting criteria," and said he hoped the General Assembly would not wait until there is a homicide.

Despite objections from the NRA, the bill has attracted one Republican co-sponsor. Rep. Elizabeth Coulson of Glenview said, "There are certain pieces of legislation that I wish we could discard the party labels and sponsors and affiliations, because this is really a bipartisan issue to protect the citizens of the state of Illinois."

One Republican to discard his party labels was Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger of California, who last year signed the first .50-caliber ban in the nation.


19 posted on 03/02/2005 4:09:21 AM PST by happinesswithoutpeace
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To: happinesswithoutpeace

Why haven't we banned boxcutters yet?


20 posted on 03/02/2005 4:10:28 AM PST by happinesswithoutpeace
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