Our Duty - Vanity

vanity | 3 2 2005 | olde north church

[olde north church]

A Klansman turned Senator accuses President Bush of using Hitlerian tactic. Not a head turns.
Republicans have comfortable control over the US Senate, yet they gently tip-toe like syncophants to the minority.
The Republican Senate Majority Leader backs down from fights regarding a cornerstone of President Bush's 2nd term policy goals and a fight for judges that could turn the course of history and mold the future of America for the foreseeable future and beyond.
There is a severe lack of leadership and unity in the U.S. Senate and the time has come to call the majority leader for what he is, weak and ineffectual. The time has come for a vote of no confidence and put a powerful leader in his stead. This is not the time to shirk from our duty to the future.

[olde north church]

3. Is capable and willing to beat the democrat's at their own game.
If he were capable of beating the democrats at their own game, this thread wouldn't be going on right now. If they were as good as shutting them down as well as the dems shut the Republicans down when they were the minority party. If the Majority were effective as they should be, we the dem leadership would be on every milk carton in the country.

[olde north church]

//sorry edit//
3. Is capable and willing to beat the democrat's at their own game. If he were capable of beating the democrats at their own game, this thread wouldn't be going on right now. If they were as good as shutting them down as well as the dems shut the Republicans down when they were the minority party, the dem leadership would be on every milk carton in the country.

[Safrguns]

Who said Frist was capable?
My point was that the replacement should be capable.

[olde north church]

Sorry for the presumption.

[Zivasmate]

I'm not sure the senate is so serene and quiet. It's more a case that Republicans have a way of gravitating towards the center, but not the Dems. The reason is probably because the Republicans are afraid of being marginalized by the Dems, as Clinton did to Gingrich in the 90's.

But the Republicans haven't had a dynamic senate leader in ages either. Why can't we have our Kennedy,Biden, or Boxer? I'm not sure of the answer, but it might be because we still have too many RINO's like Hagel, McCain,Chaffee, and some of the women.

[Safrguns]

but it might be because we still have too many RINO's like Hagel, McCain,Chaffee, and some of the women.

Who do you think got Frist where he is?

[Zivasmate]

Who would you suggest as the new majority leader?

[Cold Heat]

Well sure, but my point addressed that.

To expound, the democrats have gone were no caucus has gone before.

individual Senators have hashed things out on the floor, but they never did so as a caucus and aggressively fought judicial nominees before they got to the floor, for example.

This is pure partisan politics that here to fore was the mantra of the House and not the Senate.

On the surface, it looks like the Republicans just don't know how to handle majority status. But it is not the case. The Dems have done something that may forever change things in the Senate. A couple Dems and the Repub leadership are trying to get it back to normal, but they may well fail.

If that happens, you will see the Nuke option, and much more. There is still time for the Dems to come to their senses. We shall see.

[Cold Heat]

Who would you suggest as the new majority leader?

Typical repub eat their own sydrome.

The Senate republican caucus, as it stands now can only be managed by someone like Frist, or other moderate.

The Dems know this, and are trying to split the caucus.

If that happens, then majority status will not mean a hell of a lot. it will be worse than a 50/50 split.

The caucus must remain together, they cannot spare but a couple of votes.

The Dems can be split as well, but the repubs have to deal to get that done.

It is gonna be fun to watch.

[olde north church]

Think of the exposure the Dems are getting in the media as well. Byron Dorgan doing hearings? Ted Kennedy's speeches getting covered? John Effin' Kerry's opinions on policy? Any doubt who's corner the media is in?

[Cold Heat]

Any doubt who's corner the media is in?

Nope!

They have been part of the progressive movement since Viet Nam.

[olde north church]

I refuse to fall into the trap of referring to liberals as "progressives". They are the most regressive bunch that ever walked the in the political parade of ideas.

[Safrguns]

Who would you suggest as the new majority leader? I was agreeing with your statement. I have no idea who should be majority leader other than Frist. However, If we had to find a replacement, I would put all black republicans at the top of the list... Then I would rate them on pro-family values... then on leadership ability, and then on boldness. Thats right... we need a black republican who will stand up for families, and is not afraid to slap a hairlip on the dems every time they say something stupid. Hows that for wishful thinking? Too bad Watts quit. He'd be my choice.

[k2blader]

So you think replacing Frist will solve everything?

[Cold Heat]

Never the less, that is what they call themselves.

George Soros is the beef behind it currently, as well as the head of "Progressive Ins.", which is a bit humorous.

We need to demonize the name by using it. IMO.

[olde north church]

No man can serve two masters. Especially when one is the leader of the Majority Party and the other is the desire to be President. He is walking on eggshells, measuring every statement he makes as something that could be used against him when he runs in 2008.

[k2blader]

I agree with you that Frist must go. But I think the problem is much deeper than that.

[Cold Heat]

I don't think that is the case. If he truly was running for office now, he would be further right.(run right, govern center)

He is trying to hold his caucus together. and perhaps bring a few Dems along.

If he comes out with guns blazing, he will be shooting blanks. That is the reality of it.

[olde north church]

I agree with you to a degree. There is a degree of passion that is lacking.

[Cold Heat]

There is a degree of passion that is lacking.

Yeah, perhaps there is. Not necessarily from Frist, but he should have his other leadership do that.

I think that is why they tried to damage Delay with such intensity. He had that role, and as far as I know, still does.