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Condi Tops Prez & Hil in New Poll
NY Daily News ^ | March 1, 2005 | KENNETH R. BAZINET

Posted on 03/01/2005 12:11:49 PM PST by West Coast Conservative

Since moving from the White House to the State Department, Condoleezza Rice's star appears to be rising faster than any Washington politico, including President Bush and New York Sen. Hillary Clinton.

Only the ailing Pope John Paul - with a whopping 78% favorability rating - got higher marks than the secretary of state in a new Gallup poll released yesterday.

"There's been less controversy lately than last year when Condi was testifying in Congress, and now she's in a much more prominent position," said Marist College pollster Lee Miringoff. "As secretary of state you add legitimacy to your power."

Rice, who already is being urged to run for President in 2008 by some, has a 59% favorability rating in the poll, while only 27% of respondents gave her an unfavorable score.

"When she was national security advisor, she looked like a staffer. Now she looks like someone running an important department," Miringoff added.

Bush trailed Rice with a 56% favorability rating, followed by Clinton, who's considered the Democratic presidential front-runner in four years, at 53%.

Democratic National Committee Chairman Howard Dean lagged far behind the pack at 35%, and his numbers suggested he needs to raise his profile a bit. Some 14% of people polled said they had never heard of Dean, while another 18% had no opinion of him.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; bush; clinton; condi; election2008; hillary; phonycentristhillary; poll; rice; rice2008
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To: West Coast Conservative

Please do not misunderstand me here, I am an enormous fan of Dr. Rice as a person of exemplary character, and a political supporter of her policy positions.

However, let's not get ahead of ourselves. Hillary is still a junior Senator, and though she may be ambitious, driven, conniving and ruthless, 2008 is not a "gimme" for her.

I also like Jeb Bush and IMHO, he should be considered very qualified on his own merits, but Americans have a built-in resistance to something which has a dynastic appearance in the oval office. (unless you are talking about liberal demonrats swooning over "camelot")

Condoleeza Rice needs more experience and credentials behind her name. Flatly stated, she needs to run for and serve as Governor of her home state before tackling the GOP primaries.

We need to identify a few different viable candidates (3-4) for the 2008 ticket, and as a party, we need to do it within the next 12 months. and start helping put them in visible positions of interacting with Bush and major policymakers of his administration, to undergird their credibility, and increase name familiarity.

Maybe Cheney/Frist for 2008, then Frist/Rice in 2012?

It is something to think seriously about.

A.A.C.
I repeat: Her character is good enough, her intellect is more than good enough, and her policies as we understand them are also in line with Conservative values, but she needs to hold ELECTED office. Part of that has to do with gaining the confidence of the major fundraisers - the rest of it is gaining the confidence of a wider base of voters


41 posted on 03/01/2005 12:53:26 PM PST by AmericanArchConservative (Armour on, Lances high, Swords out, Bows drawn, Shields front ... Eagles UP!)
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To: West Coast Conservative

Eat your heart out, Hitlery-Puce Pelosi--and NOW in general.


42 posted on 03/01/2005 12:55:04 PM PST by lilylangtree (Veni, Vidi, Vici)
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To: AmericanArchConservative

BOOO and HISS, Cheny will not run and Frist excites me about as much as grilled eggplant


43 posted on 03/01/2005 12:55:11 PM PST by traderrob6 (http://www.exposingtheleft.blogspot.com)
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To: AmericanArchConservative

"I don't think a woman should run the whole shebang"

Guess what? Golda Meir ran Israel very successfully and God also used people like Deborah, Esther, etc. Look at her credentials, not her status...and finally, better look hard at who we'll need to beat the senator from NY...


44 posted on 03/01/2005 12:57:27 PM PST by princess leah (\)
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To: NEBUCHADNEZZAR1961
God help us if Condi is our only hope against the witch Hillary.

Amen.

45 posted on 03/01/2005 12:58:11 PM PST by newgeezer (Just my opinion, of course. Your mileage may vary.)
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To: JillValentine
Imagine trying to speak logically to trebb.

How do you speak thru your burka anyway?

46 posted on 03/01/2005 1:00:10 PM PST by OldFriend (America's glory is not dominion, but liberty.)
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To: AmericanArchConservative
Cheney won't run, and even if he did, I don't think he would win. Bill Frist, even though I like him, the Republican controlled Senate has been a disappointment. Also, when was the last time a Senator won a Presidential election (Kerry, Dole, etc, etc). I think Condi would be a great option. It would be interesting to get a sense of her domestic policy opinions.
47 posted on 03/01/2005 1:03:05 PM PST by laissez- faire
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To: princess leah

> Guess what? Golda Meir ran Israel very successfully...

Don't forget President Reagan's soul mate, Margaret Thatcher. I just don't understand this "don't let a woman run the whole shebang" stuff.


48 posted on 03/01/2005 1:04:56 PM PST by cloud8
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To: 1 FELLOW FREEPER; Aaron_A; Abn1508; Alex P. Keaton; ALOHA RONNIE; angelo; anncoulteriscool; ...

Condi! Ping

49 posted on 03/01/2005 1:06:56 PM PST by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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To: PubliusEXMachina
Two Bush's are enough, give other Republicans a chance.

So, that's your problem with Jeb Bush, his name? Anybody But (Any) Bush in '08?

50 posted on 03/01/2005 1:11:43 PM PST by newgeezer (Just my opinion, of course. Your mileage may vary.)
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To: AmericanArchConservative

"Condoleeza Rice needs more experience and credentials behind her name."

I don't know A.C. I would think NSA and Sec. of State would be adequate qualifiers. Consider, too, that Thomas Jefferson was Sec. of STate before he was president (albeit he served as vice president also). Remember also that George Washington was a general with no executive experience that we know of and he was a great president.

cheers!


51 posted on 03/01/2005 1:11:50 PM PST by katieanna (Love thy neighbor as thy self (I'm still working on that one!))
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To: laissez- faire
when was the last time a Senator won a Presidential election

We're lucky that rule exists.
It means we don't need to be concerned about Comrade Hillary.

52 posted on 03/01/2005 1:12:59 PM PST by ASA Vet (Those who know, don't talk. Those who talk, don't know.)
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To: newgeezer

> So, that's your problem with Jeb Bush, his name?

The Presidency should not be a family business.

If you are a geezer, as your handle implies, you will remember that once upon a time anyone with the name Kennedy was virtually guaranteed election. And that was a bad thing.


54 posted on 03/01/2005 1:25:13 PM PST by cloud8
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To: trebb
I like Condi, but don't believe we should have a woman running the whole shebang

Pooh. Ignorant medieval nonsense. Maggie Thatcher was by far the best British prime minister in my lifetime.

Government is not like a religious instution. In a Republic, our representatives, from Presidents and Senators to mayors and dog catchers, are our hired help. We can choose anyone we want without violating Scripture. Their authority over us is rooted in the Constitution, not in their persons.

-ccm

55 posted on 03/01/2005 1:27:35 PM PST by ccmay (Question Diversity)
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To: cloud8
The Presidency should not be a family business.

Amazing. Screw whatever a candidate might bring to the table or what kind of a President he might be. We've already had two Presidents from his family. That disqualifies him.

If you are a geezer, as your handle implies, you will remember that once upon a time anyone with the name Kennedy was virtually guaranteed election. And that was a bad thing.

I guess I thought that was not simply because the Kennedys all had the same name, but because they are a bunch of corrupt-to-the-core SOBs.

56 posted on 03/01/2005 1:32:06 PM PST by newgeezer (Just my opinion, of course. Your mileage may vary.)
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To: PubliusEXMachina
Dear God from a machine,

Other Repub's like Gulliania and Pitaki? Or how about that traitor McCain? No thanks, the only one I trust is Jeb.

57 posted on 03/01/2005 1:34:03 PM PST by NEBUCHADNEZZAR1961
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To: Reagan Disciple

When? It's always been a free for all of independent thought.


58 posted on 03/01/2005 1:35:18 PM PST by Richard Kimball (It was a joke. You know, humor. Like the funny kind. Only different.)
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To: Reagan Disciple

It is conservative, just not stupid. What office has Condi ever run for and won? None. She is a piano playing neophyte in the world of politics and you wish to put her up against perhaps the smartest politician in the nation? Hillary would eat her for lunch. Jeb is the only CONSERVATIVE hope we have.


59 posted on 03/01/2005 1:38:21 PM PST by NEBUCHADNEZZAR1961
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To: West Coast Conservative
Perhaps after her long tenure with our Christian prez, maybe Condi had a change of heart on her stance on abortion! I like her and would love to hear what she stands for from her own mouth. Besides all she has to do on the campaign trail is wear them there boots and kick HITLERY's big fat butt with! SHE LOOKS FABULOUS! Matrix, CONDI-08!!!
60 posted on 03/01/2005 1:39:20 PM PST by RoseofTexas
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