Posted on 03/01/2005 8:49:19 AM PST by crushkerry
Go to pages 21-25 of the Opinion (can't post the text here) and read Justice Kennedy's opinion on how we need to take into account world opinion and how the Court should look to "the leading members of the European Community" in deciding on some cases. If you never thought Judges were important, you should now. (This doesn't apply to most Freepers.
If anyone could find a way to print Pages 21-25 of the Opinion, in which Kennedy discusses the topic please copy it. Thanks
Un-friggin-believable.
Aaaaaand there it is! Using international law to interpret the constitution.
Absolutely outrageous and pathetic.
Would love to read the dissent from Scalia and Thomas.
Sigh.
If anyone can post, verbatim, the oath of office that the justices must take, that might be tons more illuminating and useful...
Global test.
"World opinion" == European ruling classes.
From pages 25-29 of the decision:
"Our determination that the death penalty is disproportionate punishment for offenders under 18 finds confirmation in the stark reality that the United States is the only country in the world that continues to give official sanction to the juvenile death penalty. This reality does not become controlling, for the task of interpreting the EighthAmendment remains our responsibility. Yet at least from the time of the Courts decision in Trop, the Court has referred to the laws of other countries and to international authorities as instructive for its interpretation of the Eighth Amendments prohibition of cruel and unusual punishments. 356 U. S., at 102103 (plurality opinion) (The civilized nations of the world are in virtual unanimity that statelessness is not to be imposed as punishment for crime); see also Atkins, supra, at 317, n. 21 (recognizing that within the world community, the imposition of the death penalty for crimes committed by mentally retarded offenders is overwhelmingly disapproved); Thomp22 ROPER v. SIMMONS Opinion of the Court son, supra, at 830831, and n. 31 (plurality opinion) (noting the abolition of the juvenile death penalty by other nations that share our Anglo-American heritage, and by the leading members of the Western European community, and observing that [w]e have previously recognized the relevance of the views of the international community in determining whether a punishment is cruel and unusual); Enmund, supra, at 796797, n. 22 (observing that the doctrine of felony murder has been abolished in England and India, severely restricted in Canada and a number of other Commonwealth countries, and is unknown in continental Europe); Coker, supra, at 596, n. 10 (plurality opinion) (It is . . . not irrelevant here that out of 60 major nations in the world surveyed in 1965, only 3 retained the death penalty for rape where death did not ensue). As respondent and a number of amici emphasize, Article37 of the United Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child, which every country in the world has ratified save for the United States and Somalia, contains an express prohibition on capital punishment for crimes committed by juveniles under 18. United Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child, Art. 37, Nov. 20, 1989, 1577 U. N. T. S. 3, 28 I. L. M. 1448, 14681470 (entered into force Sept. 2, 1990); Brief for Respondent 48; Brief for European Union et al. as Amici Curiae 1213; Brief for President James Earl Carter, Jr., et al. as Amici Curiae 9; Brief for Former U. S. Diplomats Morton Abramowitz et al. as Amici Curiae 7; Brief for Human Rights Committee of the Bar of England and Wales et al. as Amici Curiae 1314. No ratifying country has entered a reservation to the provision prohibiting the execution of juvenile offenders. Parallel prohibitions are contained in other significant international covenants. See ICCPR, Art. 6(5), 999U. N. T. S., at 175 (prohibiting capital punishment for anyone under 18 at the time of offense) (signed and ratified by the United States subject to a reservation regard23 Cite as: 543 U. S. ____ (2005) Opinion of the Court ing Article 6(5), as noted, supra, at 13); American Convention on Human Rights: Pact of San José, Costa Rica, Art. 4(5), Nov. 22, 1969, 1144 U. N. T. S. 146 (entered into force July 19, 1978) (same); African Charter on the Rights and Welfare of the Child, Art. 5(3), OAU Doc. CAB/LEG/ 24.9/49 (1990) (entered into force Nov. 29, 1999) (same).Respondent and his amici have submitted, and petitioner does not contest, that only seven countries other than the United States have executed juvenile offenders since 1990: Iran, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Nigeria,the Democratic Republic of Congo, and China. Since then each of these countries has either abolished capital punishment for juveniles or made public disavowal of the practice. Brief for Respondent 4950. In sum, it is fair to say that the United States now stands alone in a world that has turned its face against the juvenile death penalty.Though the international covenants prohibiting the juvenile death penalty are of more recent date, it is instructive to note that the United Kingdom abolished the juvenile death penalty before these covenants came into being. The United Kingdoms experience bears particular relevance here in light of the historic ties between our countries and in light of the Eighth Amendments own origins. The Amendment was modeled on a parallel provision in the English Declaration of Rights of 1689, whichprovided: [E]xcessive Bail ought not to be required nor excessive Fines imposed; nor cruel and unusuall Punishments inflicted. 1 W. & M., ch. 2, §10, in 3 Eng. Stat. at Large 441 (1770); see also Trop, supra, at 100 (plurality opinion). As of now, the United Kingdom has abolished the death penalty in its entirety; but, decades before it took this step, it recognized the disproportionate nature of the juvenile death penalty; and it abolished that penalty as a separate matter. In 1930 an official committee recommended that the minimum age for execution be raised to 21. House of Commons Report from the Select Commit24 ROPER v. SIMMONS Opinion of the Court tee on Capital Punishment (1930), 193, p. 44. Parliament then enacted the Children and Young Persons Act of 1933, 23 Geo. 5, ch. 12, which prevented execution of those aged 18 at the date of the sentence. And in 1948, Parliament enacted the Criminal Justice Act, 11 & 12 Geo. 6, ch. 58, prohibiting the execution of any person under 18 at thetime of the offense. In the 56 years that have passed since the United Kingdom abolished the juvenile death penalty, the weight of authority against it there, and in the international community, has become well established. It is proper that we acknowledge the overwhelming weight of international opinion against the juvenile deathpenalty, resting in large part on the understanding that the instability and emotional imbalance of young people may often be a factor in the crime. See Brief for Human Rights Committee of the Bar of England and Wales et al. as Amici Curiae 1011. The opinion of the worldcommunity, while not controlling our outcome, does provide respected and significant confirmation for our ownconclusions. Over time, from one generation to the next, the Constitution has come to earn the high respect and even, as Madison dared to hope, the veneration of the American people. See The Federalist No. 49, p. 314 (C. Rossiter ed. 1961). The document sets forth, and rests upon, innovative principles original to the American experience, such as federalism; a proven balance in political mechanisms through separation of powers; specific guarantees for the accused in criminal cases; and broad provisions to secure individual freedom and preserve human dignity. These doctrines and guarantees are central to the American experience and remain essential to our present-day self-definition and national identity. Not the least of the reasons we honor the Constitution, then, is because we know it to be our own. It does not lessen our fidelity to the Constitution or our pride in its origins to acknowledge 25 Cite as: 543 U. S. ____ (2005) Opinion of the Court that the express affirmation of certain fundamental rights by other nations and peoples simply underscores the centrality of those same rights within our own heritage of freedom."
From Scalia: "Because I do not believe the meaning of our Eigth Amendment, any more than the other provisions of our Consitution, should be determined by the views of five Members of this Court and like minded foreigners" I dissent"
...the abolition of the juvenile death penalty by other nations that share our Anglo-American heritage, and by the leading members of the Western European community, and observing that [w]e have previously recognized the relevance of the views of the international community in determining whether a punishment is cruel and unusual); Enmund, supra, at 796797, n. 22 (observing that the doctrine of felony murder has been abolished in England and India, severely restricted in Canada and a number of other Commonwealth countries, and is unknown in continental Europe); Coker, supra, at 596, n. 10 (plurality opinion) (It is . . . not irrelevant here that out of 60 major nations in the world surveyed in 1965, only 3 retained the death penalty for rape where death did not ensue). As respondent and a number of amici emphasize, Article37 of the United Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child, which every country in the world has ratified save for the United States and Somalia, contains an express prohibition on capital punishment for crimes committed by juveniles under 18. United Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child, Art. 37, Nov. 20, 1989, 1577 U. N. T. S. 3, 28 I. L. M. 1448, 14681470 (entered into force Sept. 2, 1990); Brief for Respondent 48; Brief for European Union et al. as Amici Curiae 1213; Brief for President James Earl Carter, Jr., et al. as Amici Curiae 9; Brief for Former U. S. Diplomats Morton Abramowitz et al. as Amici Curiae 7; Brief for Human Rights Committee of the Bar of England and Wales et al. as Amici Curiae 1314. No ratifying country has entered a reservation to the provision prohibiting the execution of juvenile offenders. Parallel prohibitions are contained in other significant international covenants. See ICCPR, Art. 6(5), 999U. N. T. S., at 175 (prohibiting capital punishment for anyone under 18 at the time of offense) (signed and ratified by the United States subject to a reservation regard...
Hell, Justice Kennedy -- why don't we just review all of our state laws in light of the prevailing views of the U.N?
Last time I checked, the Court is only supposed to construe state statutes in light of principles and text of the U.S. Constitution and U.S. Treaties.
Last week I, and 30 of our UD students, met with Justice Clarence Thomas for almost 2 hours, and I specifically asked him about the tendency of these guys to cite "world opinion," and he said it was very troubling---that he doubted they would want to apply various foreign laws in things like decapitation for theft or various South African laws. Besides being obviously unconstitutional, (duh), it allows jurists to "cherry pick" the international laws they agree with.
I was not aware that international law had jurisdiction in regards to the US Constitution. Perhaps Sharia Law will have jurisdiction in the future. (/sarcasm)
Thanks, much appreciated.
The Founding Fathers are rolling in their graves.
Are we or are we not sovereign? Did we or did we not vote down the 'global test' candidate?
Disgraceful.
Just keep in mind, this is a Republican court.
This is a court that reflects in measure the "New World Order" the Bushes, father and son have desired and facilitated.
Does this generation have the courage to have a Boston Tea party?
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