Va. Terror Suspect Must Show He's No Danger to Make Bail [WaPoo very unhappy]

The Washington Post ^ | March 1, 2005 | By Jerry Markon, Washington Post Staff Writer

[aculeus]

It is a premise as old as the American legal system: The government has the burden of proof in criminal cases, and the accused is not required to say a word in his defense.

But when an American student charged in an al Qaeda plot to kill President Bush appears in court today seeking his release on bail, it is Ahmed Omar Abu Ali who will have to show that he is not a danger to his Northern Virginia community

[Vn_survivor_67-68]

"But when an American student charged in an al Qaeda plot to kill President Bush appears in court today seeking his release on bail, it is Ahmed Omar Abu Ali who will have to show that he is not a danger to his Northern Virginia community"

Ummm. seems like the standard ought to pertain to what he is charged with, not some peripheral red herring, as this implies.

[jocon307]

The fact that someone was tortured does not mean that person is innocent.

[Montfort]

The frightening thing is that his parents are probably very proud of him. These Islamic terrorists and would-be assassins see themselves as heroes and martyrs who will be the role models for all children in 100 years or so when the whole world has submitted. Our founding fathers were viewed as traitors by the British government and by most Brits, yet they personally did not view themselves as such. I think these vicious creatures see themselves in the same light light as freedom fighters see themselves (except that instead of fighting for freedom, they fight for submission).

We cannot shame these creatures into giving up. We will not convince the radicals of the errors of their ways. They are counting on future glory. We can only fight them and kill them until enough of them realize that we will not submit.

[jiggyboy]

(banging of gavel) Point of order -- it's not a "fact" that he was tortured!

[jocon307]

"...it's not a "fact" that he was tortured!"

That's correct, I was just trying to be concise. Even IF he had been tortured that wouldn't indicate innocence, nor would it constitute "sufficient" punishment.

[Shazolene]

It sounds like this whole family is a bad deal for America. They should probably all be deported.