[Toddsterpatriot]

yea, you guys never talk about manurfacturing/capital goods yall lump farming, mining, paper, printing and lumber (suppling raw materials to the more advanced manurfacturing nations) into one "goods" catagory hoping to mislead everyone.

Please all knowing one, bestow upon us the facts that make your case.

Please show us a graph that shows "Manufactured Goods Production" from the 1940's to the 2000's. Make your point with facts, not feelings.

[1rudeboy]

Did you notice the comment about "the more advanced manufacturing nations?" I wonder which nations those might be?

[jpsb]

Very difficult to do since categories are constantly being redefined in a transparent attempt to make bad news sound like good news. Numbers for the 40's and 50's are now meaningless with manufacturing being redefined to include making hamburgers at MacDonalds. Ya, that did not fly but the attempt was made so I use it to illustrate my point.

To further illustrate my point I recall a clever saying "who are you going to believe me or your lying eyes?" I used to see made in the USA often in stores, jeans, shoes, TVs, cars, just about everything was made in the USA. Now when I go to a store I have to look and look hard to find ANYTHING with a made in the USA label. This indicates to me that we are not making alot of stuff here anymore. Add to that the pleases for help from industry after industry being buried by a flood of cheap imports and I think it i reasonable to conclude that US manufacturing is in trouble. Even hi tech manufacturing since very little of my computer contains a made in the USA label.

Now you can post your charts, but I will believe my lying eyes.