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Chicago - Bodies Found at Home of Federal Judge
Associated Press | February 28, 2005

Posted on 02/28/2005 7:12:08 PM PST by HAL9000

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To: hoosiermama
Saw it....they were posting while I was typing....We need to create a freeper term for this phenomena

You got preeped :)

161 posted on 02/28/2005 8:49:46 PM PST by Ken H
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To: All
I would t hink they would have a good security system. ..at least, I would think some cameras going. This is the home of a Federal Judge. . .and one who has previously been threatened.

Not that delivery people etc./help do not have access; but perhaps some cameras at least to help in finding the perp of this crime.

A wife. . .four daughters. . .loved ones et al. . .

I guess murderers realize how many victims they really take. .

162 posted on 02/28/2005 8:51:32 PM PST by cricket
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To: harrowup

Thank you, harrowup. No one deserves to be murdered, or to have that horrible experience this woman has had. She must be going through the worst hell!

Most here pray for her and her daughters, as well as any other family and friends.


163 posted on 02/28/2005 8:53:37 PM PST by gidget7
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To: Howlin
He has not been sentenced yet?

From what I can tell he's been held without bail but his sentencing was postponed.

November 10, 2004 The judge has postponed indefinitely Hale's sentencing, which had been scheduled for November 15, pending the U.S. Supreme Court's decision on U.S. v. Booker and U.S. v. Fanfan, which question whether judges may increase sentences based on aggravating circumstances not presented to the jury (federal prosecutors in the Hale case are seeking such an enhanced sentence). http://crime.allinfoabout.com/old/hale/trial.html

164 posted on 02/28/2005 8:55:03 PM PST by amom
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To: gidget7

It's times like these when anti-death-penalty types like myself really have a problem. I still don't favor executing criminals, but...


165 posted on 02/28/2005 8:55:05 PM PST by ArcLight
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To: Howlin

Am I reading the article correctly? Doesn't it say the judge ruled in favor of Hale on the name of the "church"? And it was overturned by Oregon court? Why did he want her dead?


166 posted on 02/28/2005 8:56:12 PM PST by Jrabbit
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To: cricket

I do wonder if there was security. But people cannot live behind a security system all the time.

I have a nephew who lived in Montana for a long time. He told me these groups, these white supremist Nazi like groups, are terrifying. I did not know there were many of them in Illinois. But something about them makes me turn my head away, I guess I need to get over it and find out more about them. They do scare me.


167 posted on 02/28/2005 8:56:13 PM PST by cajungirl (freeps are my peeps.)
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To: amom

April 26, 2004
Hale has been found guilty of one count of solictation to murder (and acquitted on a second count), and guilty on all three counts of obstruction of justice. No sentencing date has been set, but he could face 20 years on the solicitation count, and 10 years for each obstruction count. The defense plans to appeal.
http://crime.allinfoabout.com/old/hale/trial.html


168 posted on 02/28/2005 8:56:56 PM PST by amom
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To: Jrabbit

AFter that ruling, the case came back to her and she told them to give up the trademark at which time this guy tried to get her killed. I think that is what she is sentencing him for but I might be wrong. you would think another judge would do that since this Judge would be prejudiced. But I don't know.


169 posted on 02/28/2005 8:58:26 PM PST by cajungirl (freeps are my peeps.)
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To: cajungirl

Doesn't apply to this post anyway, just a curious question.

More to the point.....prayers to the family.


170 posted on 02/28/2005 8:59:22 PM PST by gidget7
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To: nopardons
Wheaton College,in Mass.,is coed and has been for decades,and opened long before the one in Ill.

Sort of.

Wheaton College (Mass.): Since 1834.

Wheaton College (IL): Since 1860.

Longer, yes, but not that much longer.

171 posted on 02/28/2005 8:59:39 PM PST by xjcsa (She died of loneliness...loneliness and rabies...)
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To: Jrabbit
Why did he want her dead?

Several years ago, Oregon's Te-Ta-Ma Truth Foundation trademarked the name "Church of the Creator". On November 19, 2002, following a year of legal battles between the two organizations, U.S. District Court Judge Joan H. Lefkow issued an injunction prohibiting the World Church of the Creator from using any variation of the name -- including using the words "Church" and "Creator" in the same phrase -- in any manner. Hale was ordered to turn his ownership of churchofthecreator.com to the Foundation. Hale refused to comply and on December 13, Judge Lefkow ordered him to show why he shouldn't be held in contempt. http://crime.allinfoabout.com/old/hale/trial.html

172 posted on 02/28/2005 9:01:08 PM PST by amom
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To: cajungirl

Those Angels are there, no doubt. Her mother must have been quite elderly, and somehow that makes it even more of a horror.


173 posted on 02/28/2005 9:01:49 PM PST by gidget7
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To: xjcsa

Almost three decades is "long before"....5 years would be "sort of". LOL


174 posted on 02/28/2005 9:01:55 PM PST by nopardons
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To: xjcsa; Cultural Jihad

Maybe we should have a poll on that. :-)


175 posted on 02/28/2005 9:01:59 PM PST by Howlin (Free the Eason Jordan Tape!!!)
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To: Howlin

Nope,there are many of here. :-)


176 posted on 02/28/2005 9:03:14 PM PST by nopardons
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To: nopardons
Almost three decades is "long before"....5 years would be "sort of". LOL

Well I went to another Christian college - Liberty University. Founded 1971; I guess that would qualify as "very long after".

177 posted on 02/28/2005 9:03:47 PM PST by xjcsa (She died of loneliness...loneliness and rabies...)
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To: gidget7

I know. Murders of old ladies always get me. They were so close to just leaving. Why subject them to horror after a lifetime of peace.

I guess any murder is equally horrible, but this one, well it hits in the heart in alot of ways. Have you ever noticed that, that some murders just seem worse than others even though you know it isn't the case.


178 posted on 02/28/2005 9:04:40 PM PST by cajungirl (freeps are my peeps.)
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To: Jrabbit

She fined them $1,000 a day and ordered them to give up their membership list.


179 posted on 02/28/2005 9:05:36 PM PST by amom
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To: amom

I predict we will hear alot more about this group. Imagine being the judge who is asked to take this case.


180 posted on 02/28/2005 9:06:40 PM PST by cajungirl (freeps are my peeps.)
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