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Tunnel to U.S. starts inside Mexican home
San Diego Union Tribune ^ | February 28, 2005 | Sandra Dibble

Posted on 02/28/2005 2:37:27 PM PST by WindOracle

The bedroom of a luxurious Mexicali residence a block from the border hid a secret tunnel leading to neighboring Calexico, Mexican officials said yesterday.

Inside the passageway, investigators discovered lighting and ventilation equipment, a closed-circuit security system, hydraulic machinery and various tools, according to a statement yesterday by the Mexican Federal Attorney General's Office, or PGR.

The findings led agents to surmise that "the tunnel was used for illicit activities, presumably related to drug trafficking," the statement said.

A middle section of the passageway was initially discovered in the United States early Friday by U.S. Border Patrol agents checking for tunnels in a residential area of Calexico. It is the third tunnel found in Calexico in the past 15 months.

"From what we've seen of this tunnel, it appears to be one of the most sophisticated and elaboratedly constructed that we have discovered to date," said Lauren Mack, a spokeswoman for U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement, which is conducting the investigation.

Smugglers of migrants and drugs have historically used underground passageways to avoid detection by U.S. and Mexican authorities. Mack said yesterday that U.S. investigators were searching for the tunnel's other end: "This an ongoing criminal investigation, and we're still trying to locate a possible exit to the U.S."

On the Mexican side, the tunnel's entrance was found Saturday by agents from Mexico's Federal Agency of Investigation, know as AFI. The entrance led from the bedroom of a house about 100 yards from the border in an upscale neighborhood known as Colonia Nueva.

The house, on Francisco I. Madero Avenue, shared the same lot with a second residence that also was searched, according to the PGR. Agents found a closed-circuit security system outside the two houses. Both houses were vacant at the time of the search, the statement said.

The statement did not say who owned the property.


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To: s_asher

Let's be honest, if the US Government really wanted to put a stop to it, it's a simple matter of hiring more guards or stationing some troops by the border.


I say let's put PITBULLS to good use!!


61 posted on 02/28/2005 5:09:01 PM PST by chicagolady (Mexican Elite say: EXPORT Poverty Let the American Taxpayer foot the bill !)
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To: bayourod
"Our government is serious about protecting Americans."

Despite an influx of new technology, such as underground sensors and cameras that pan the desert, agents catch only about one-third of the estimated 3 million people who cross the border illegally every year.

"Unfortunately some people want resources being used to protect Americans to be diverted to reducing the number of illegal dishwashers and garbage collectors they fear are taking all the good jobs away from them."

In 2003, the Border Patrol arrested 39,215 so-called "OTMs," or other-than-Mexicans, along the Southwest border. In 2004, the number jumped to 65,814. ......Those figures worry intelligence and Homeland Security officials, who say al-Qaeda leaders want to smuggle operatives and weapons of mass destruction across the nation's porous land borders.

Dishwashers and garbage collectors, eh?

62 posted on 02/28/2005 5:26:45 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: chicagolady; HiJinx
"Let's be honest, if the US Government really wanted to put a stop to it,"

That is the biggest IF that's ever been written.

63 posted on 02/28/2005 5:28:01 PM PST by TexasCowboy (Texan by birth, citizen of Jesusland by the Grace of God)
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To: Semper911

Well, I apologized for what I said while I was still angry... but ya know.. repeating it in your own post, so that when the admin did delete it, it is then left in your post,is a bit stupid, wouldn't you say?


64 posted on 02/28/2005 5:47:50 PM PST by WindOracle
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To: GaltMeister
Huh? Why don't they crawl the length of the thing and see where you come out?

Maybe they are worried about booby traps or something.

They need a friggin' operations order from Washington DC to go into the tunnel.

65 posted on 02/28/2005 6:31:39 PM PST by Ajnin (I)
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To: Ajnin

Probably waiting to get military personel who are trained in the fine art of being a Tunnel Rat. Who knows what sort of boobytraps and such might be in there. I would not crawl thru it.


66 posted on 02/28/2005 7:15:47 PM PST by WindOracle
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To: WindOracle
so that when the admin did delete it, it is then left in your post,is a bit stupid, wouldn't you say?

Yes, it was.

But we know who said it in the first place.

67 posted on 02/28/2005 7:53:21 PM PST by Semper911 (Those who wait also serve.)
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To: WindOracle

Well golly gee, what a suprise.

Yet we have people who think a fence will solve our problems.

Now, if we dig it deep underground and make sensors to detect this sort of thing, it would work. But, how long would that take to build and at what cost?


68 posted on 02/28/2005 7:55:28 PM PST by rwfromkansas ("War is an ugly thing, but...the decayed feeling...which thinks nothing worth war, is worse." -Mill)
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To: Semper911

For which I apologized, not compounded it. If an apology is not good enough for ya.. then ya can perform an unnatural act with yourself as far as I care.


69 posted on 02/28/2005 7:57:26 PM PST by WindOracle
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To: s_asher

Interesting theory.

Like most modern countries, the birth rate is slowing down while the death rate is as well.

In parts of Europe, some countries are close to actually losing population.

As for world population projections, it doesn't look like anymore we will see the great overpopulation feared in the 70s, 80s, and even 90s.


70 posted on 02/28/2005 8:00:38 PM PST by rwfromkansas ("War is an ugly thing, but...the decayed feeling...which thinks nothing worth war, is worse." -Mill)
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To: rwfromkansas

This is true, and we do have sensors which could detect it. It is simply a matter of how much we wish to pay for it. We could make it a bit tougher if we had double fences.. seperated by a considerable distance, and allowed no development right up to the border... at least on our side. This would not solve it, but would at least make them dig a little further. Whatever the case, we could definitely figure out some things to make it a lot tougher with some good ole American ingenuity.


71 posted on 02/28/2005 8:00:59 PM PST by WindOracle
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To: rwfromkansas

Seems to be a natural trend in more developed countries for birth rates to drop. Probably because the chances of raising a child to adulthood increase, and because there is less need to have lots of kids for little plowhorses.
It seems like we have a tendancy though, when famine sets in, to make the problem worse by kickin out lots of kids. I suspect the first reason I gave accounts for that more than anything.


72 posted on 02/28/2005 8:04:33 PM PST by WindOracle
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To: WindOracle

I say we drop something in our side of the tunnel that when it blows, The roof comes off the Mexican house.


73 posted on 02/28/2005 8:19:42 PM PST by 82Marine89 (U.S. Marines- Part of the Navy....The men's department.)
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To: chicagolady

It can be done if the desire was there.

74 posted on 02/28/2005 8:21:27 PM PST by Missouri
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To: 82Marine89

LOL.. that would be quite a thing to see, huh?


75 posted on 02/28/2005 8:36:53 PM PST by WindOracle
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To: WoofDog123; WindOracle; B4Ranch

<< you would think that after dealing with north korea's insanely large tunneling projects for decades, the US would have some decent detection methods. >>

You forget the feral gummint gets to hand-line the talent pool for what's left only after America's 25,000 private employers and corporations have netted, seined, long-lined, trawled and dredged it bare of its every creative, innovative, productive and industrious fish.

Feral gummint employees are the dumbest and least competent among US and 80% of everything done by the mindlessly-malignant bureaucracies they have allowed to metasticize under their watches is done by "contractors" which are, to-the-last-man, inevitably corrupted by the process.

No matter how stupid are the drug and peeople-smuggling criminals up against our ferals the one thing they can and do count on is that as long as their lowliest employee is making a Thousand Bucks a day the chance he will be out-thought by a US feral gummint employee is at bet remote.

Hence thirty-five million criminal alien invaders surrounding US -- and drug sales flourishing in every grade school, police station and Wal-Mart parking lot!

"Some decent detection methods?"

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76 posted on 02/28/2005 8:45:12 PM PST by Brian Allen (“The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of a fool to the left- Ecclesiastes 10:2)
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To: 82Marine89; WindOracle
I say we drop something in our side of the tunnel that when it blows, The roof comes off the Mexican house.

Stick a hose from a tank of Acetylene in the tunnel and open the valve for 10 to 15 minutes and then introduce a spark . . .

Fastest way to find the other end of the tunnel.

:-)

77 posted on 02/28/2005 9:04:35 PM PST by Petruchio (<===Looks Sexy in a flightsuit . . . Looks Silly in a french maid outfit)
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To: Petruchio
When we were kids, my brother and I got the bright idea to pour some carbide down a mole's hole and pour some water in. Woulda just gassed him, but my brother dropped a match in and blew a small trench, a couple inches deep across my mom's yard. Man, did we get a whuppin.
78 posted on 02/28/2005 10:31:26 PM PST by WindOracle
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To: bayourod; TexasCowboy; Marine Inspector; TomGuy; WindOracle; DumpsterDiver; F16Fighter; Riddick; ...
"Unfortunately some people want resources being used to protect Americans to be diverted to reducing the number of illegal dishwashers and garbage collectors they fear are taking all the good jobs away from them."



I defer you all to a column by Ben MacIntyre, and Professor Harry G. Frankfurt; moral philosopher at Princeton:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1351575/posts


“The essence of bullshit is getting away with it, with persuading listeners or readers of a sincerity that is, by definition, phony. The bullshit artist simply does not care about truth: “He pays no attention to it at all."

“By virtue of this, bullshit is a greater enemy of truth than lies are.” ~ Harry G. Frankfurt, moral philosopher and professor emeritus at Princeton University: 'On Bullshit' (Princeton University Press)

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79 posted on 02/28/2005 11:43:53 PM PST by FBD ("A nation without borders is not a nation." -- Ronald Reagan)
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To: s_asher

"But the government is not only unwilling to commit the resources, it provides incentives for the illegals to cross over and give them green cards by lottery."

You might find this interesting.


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GREEN CARDS AND GANGS

Siskiyou County, California, Feb. 26, 2005

They come from Mexico for jobs by way of a document called a “green card”. Such immigrants are termed “legal permanent Residents” with many of the same rights as US citizens outlined here,

o To live permanently in the United States provided you do not commit any actions that would make you removable (deportable) under the immigration law (section 237, Immigration and Nationality Act).
o To be employed in the United States at any legal work of your qualification and choosing.
o To be protected by all of the laws of the United States, your state of residence and local jurisdictions.
o To vote in local elections where United States Citizenship is not required. Click here for more details on voting.
Exceptions
o Some jobs will be limited to United States Citizens because of security concerns.
http://uscis.gov/graphics/howdoi/PermRes.htm


Today Siskiyou county Sheriff Rick Riggins and Captain Mike Murphy presented a slide show and details of Marijuana growing operations on federal forest land as a warning to residents of the dangers of happening across one of these farms. These operations are spearheaded by various Latino gangs, one being the powerful, well armed MS-13 gang that began in El Salvador. Sheriff Riggins stated that his biggest problem in combating this scourge is his office being labeled, "racist".

On Sept. 11, 2004, one such farm was busted by the Sheriff with help from BLM and the forest service netting thousands of plants and several Mexicans who either held green cards or were awol from the Mexican military and in this country illegally. These raids are no simple task as the terrain is nearly insurmountable and usually remote, however one growing operation was within 2 miles of the city limits of Etna, California. Resources are limited in such small counties, with little help from federal officials, even though this organized criminal enterprise has been going on in these mountains for many years. Homeland Security says such operations are not their concern.

The gangs are back this year getting ready for next falls harvest to be distributed across the US. Their supplies and equipment will be brought in from the cities and deliveries to replenish them are undertaken at night every few weeks. The farms are guarded at all times.

Slides of the “camps” complete with a “hooch” for living were shown. Huge pits are dug, one big enough for an SUV, for garbage and waste. The trees are cut or skinned to pile “moats” around the farms to camouflage them. Black irrigation pipe is buried for miles to get water to the plants. The environment on our national lands is being degraded by these operations, destroying habitat and watershed purity.

We saw the AK-47’s, axes, shovels, a . 22 rifle with the name “ Los Pleves” scratched on the stock. We saw notebooks of the growers with markings of MS-13 and a drawing of a Lexus that one “immigrant” intended to buy with the drug profits.

Most of the farms appear to be run by the same organizations mostly through the Mexican Mafia year after year. Though a few are busted, a substantive dent has not been made and they know they can operate here more safely and profitably than in Mexico and there is no worry of getting the product back into the states.

Across the border in Oregon, the story is the same. The Sheriffs of Jackson, Josephine and Klamath County work together to find the farms and arrest the perpetrators. All have been Mexican so far, most with green cards. These same gangs also brew Methanphetimine to finance their organized crime activities during off season.

We do not need yet another “guest worker” program to supply dangerous gangs with recruits. We need to find out why these people were ever allowed in this country in the first place and how to keep more of them out.

copyright 2/26/05 Siskiyou County, California TheTownCrier@gmail.com


80 posted on 03/01/2005 8:41:26 AM PST by JustAnotherSavage ("We are all sinners. But jerks revel in their sins." PJ O'Rourke)
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