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To: Zeroisanumber

Have you ever had a job or do you just show up to make sanctimonius speeches or forums?

The government may not put him in jail for his speech. But everyone who ever had a job knows that if you say or do certain things that draw attention to your employer to his detriment, your are history.

And do tell,do yousupport the restrictions on free speech visited on students in the name of not having "hate speech". This speech was classical hate speech. And are you aware he took a loyalty oath to get his job, I think his speech makes it clear he has violated that oath. And if what he published is a lie, a fraud, then he ought to be fired for that.


37 posted on 02/28/2005 4:04:48 PM PST by cajungirl (freeps are my peeps.)
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To: cajungirl; Zeroisanumber

"This speech was classical hate speech."



Exactly! I can only imagine what would've happened to Ward if instead of commenting on the 9/11 attack it was a black church burning resulting in deaths. Instead of asking, why has it taken Arabs to do what we (the left) should have done long ago, he instead says...why has it taken the Klan to do what we should've done long ago. He then, follows that up (as he did in this speech) giving tips to a white student in the advocation of violence. This "speech" would never stand if it attacked any of the protected groups on the Left.


51 posted on 02/28/2005 6:17:56 PM PST by cwb
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To: cajungirl
Have you ever had a job or do you just show up to make sanctimonius speeches or forums?

I am currently employed.

The government may not put him in jail for his speech. But everyone who ever had a job knows that if you say or do certain things that draw attention to your employer to his detriment, your are history.

The university system is different. Tenure was created to protect contreversial professors from losing their jobs over things that they publish or say publicly. Freedom of speech means that from time to time I have to see idgits dressed up as Nazis screaming about "da joos" on the 10 o'clock news, academic freedom means that I have to tolerate dumbass professors from time to time. I'd rather live with the headache than not have the freedom.

And do tell, do you support the restrictions on free speech visited on students in the name of not having "hate speech". This speech was classical hate speech. And are you aware he took a loyalty oath to get his job, I think his speech makes it clear he has violated that oath. And if what he published is a lie, a fraud, then he ought to be fired for that.

No, I don't support hate speech restrictions for the same reason that I don't support the idea of firing Churchill for what he said or wrote.

As for the fraud, I think that I've made it quite clear that I would support his firing if it was proved that he plagarized or otherwise committed academic fraud.

54 posted on 03/01/2005 8:56:56 AM PST by Zeroisanumber
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