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More fanatical intolerance by secularists
Jewish World Review ^ | February 28, 2005 | Michael Medved

Posted on 02/28/2005 4:06:35 AM PST by beaversmom

TV comedian Bill Maher has provided new proof that today's secularists display far less tolerance, and far more fanaticism, than their counterparts among people of faith.

On MSNBC, Maher baldly declared: "We are a nation that is unenlightened because of religion…. I think it justifies crazies…I think religion is a neurological disorder… The future does not belong to religion."

Even those who share Maher's left-leaning politics must recognize that religious celebrities who railed against non-believers in similar terms would face an avalanche of criticism. Imagine the reaction if James Dobson suggested, "atheism is a neurological disorder!"

Of course, religious leaders seldom denounce non-believers as "sick" since they hope to encourage their faith — and millions of uncommitted Americans have indeed recently embraced traditional religious practice.

The ongoing, undeniable revival in Bible-based Christian and Jewish families gives the lie to the unmarried and childless Maher's smug declaration that "the future does not belong to religion."

(Excerpt) Read more at jewishworldreview.com ...


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1 posted on 02/28/2005 4:06:35 AM PST by beaversmom
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2 posted on 02/28/2005 4:07:54 AM PST by beaversmom (Just keep swimming, swimming, swimming)
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To: beaversmom

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3 posted on 02/28/2005 4:10:08 AM PST by gakrak ("A wise man's heart is his right hand, But a fool's heart is at his left" Eccl 10:2)
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To: beaversmom
Think about it. Maher's Amazing Candor is a confession. Maher is an excellent example of the kind of crazy he's describing--unenlightened by religion. He doesn't know how true his words are.
4 posted on 02/28/2005 4:50:47 AM PST by Savage Beast (My parents, grandparents, and great grandparents were Democrats. My children are Republicans.)
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To: Savage Beast

Sometimes religion keeps people in the dark. The current propaganda by the Discovery Institute and other creationist groups is hurting science education in this country, threatening research and making Christianity look stupid.


5 posted on 02/28/2005 4:52:47 AM PST by shubi (Peace through superior firepower.)
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To: beaversmom
Religious celebrities who railed against non-believers in similar terms would face an avalanche of criticism. -Michael Medved

Maher would say he is willing to take the heat for his outrageous statements. Fine. Let's turn up the heat.

6 posted on 02/28/2005 4:54:52 AM PST by NutCrackerBoy
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To: beaversmom

For the longest time I did not understand the hostility of atheists towards believers. How could my faith bother non-believers?

The problem is not my faith.

The problem for others is that my faith makes me far less likely to believe the new age garbage of modern secularism. I pose a threat to socialist goals because of my faith and respect for the Constitution.

The left respects nothing save power.


7 posted on 02/28/2005 4:57:53 AM PST by Jacquerie (Democrats soil the institutions they control)
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To: NutCrackerBoy

shun him thru letters to HBO? They don't care. I get enraged every time I scan past his weekly shows...


8 posted on 02/28/2005 5:08:47 AM PST by bitt ("Conservatism is the dominant political creed in America,")
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To: Jacquerie
The problem for others is that my faith makes me far less likely to believe the new age garbage of modern secularism. I pose a threat to socialist goals because of my faith and respect for the Constitution.

Yes, clearly. I look at it as cultural assimilation (or lack thereof). Americans justifiably get angry if people from other cultures come here and don't even try to assimilate. But American values are not humanist!

Secular humanism is a culture that includes a set of unquestionable assumptions. Its adherents could be tolerant of quaint belief systems as long as they are only temporary on the way to assimilation. But religious people teach their children and they are not changing. Hence the Culture War.

9 posted on 02/28/2005 5:18:08 AM PST by NutCrackerBoy
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Is it?

I think you guys are so paranoic about the Creationists that you end up giving them far more press coverage than they are due.

Compound that with the knee-jerk reaction you all have to even the discussion of PANSPERMIA and it's beginning to look like any number of evolutionists have some serious neurological disorders.

IT IS NOT REQUIRED for life to begin on Earth. We have an enormous universe out there and billions of years for things to happen.

Then, there's the pseudoscience so many try to pass off as sound evolutionary process. We see that when you use puppy dog breeding as an example of how we get a new species or two out of an old species.

Wolves and dogs are the SAME species! With assistance we can even mix the breeds no matter how different they might be too. (See this month's Scientific American for yet another faulty plemic that uses dogs.)

Although your particular post drifted "off topic", it ended up as a very good example of the problem folks like Bill Maher have.

10 posted on 02/28/2005 5:29:54 AM PST by muawiyah ( (do I really have to put the /sarcasm tag on things like this?))
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To: shubi
Sometimes religion keeps people in the dark. The current propaganda by the Discovery Institute and other creationist groups is hurting science education in this country, threatening research and making Christianity look stupid.


11 posted on 02/28/2005 5:31:10 AM PST by tx_eggman (You guys are .... checker players in the chess game of life.)
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To: shubi

Yes, religion can keep people in the dark. Like anything else, it can be perverted.


12 posted on 02/28/2005 5:40:59 AM PST by Savage Beast (My parents, grandparents, and great grandparents were Democrats. My children are Republicans.)
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To: beaversmom

ping for later reading.


13 posted on 02/28/2005 5:45:53 AM PST by Unam Sanctam
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To: shubi

I'm not a practicing christian. I've broken the 10 Commandments more than once, and will probably continue to do so. But when I look at my scarred, somewhat haggard relection for my morning shave, I don't believe for a damn second that I am a few generations removed from a great grandfather to the 10th power who was a friggin' ape. Why have the lower primates that have been studied for recorded history not advanced? We know instinctively when we do something wrong, the secularists are just looking for a way to justify it.


14 posted on 02/28/2005 5:51:35 AM PST by zygoat
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I don't believe for a damn second that I am a few generations removed from a great grandfather to the 10th power who was a friggin' ape.

zygoat ... welcome to shubi_world. Just let go of the bar and enjoy the ride.

15 posted on 02/28/2005 5:58:58 AM PST by tx_eggman (You guys are .... checker players in the chess game of life.)
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To: beaversmom
Imagine the reaction if James Dobson suggested, "atheism is a neurological disorder!"

The title of Michael Savage's next book just happens to be "Liberalism is a Neurological Disorder". LoL!

16 posted on 02/28/2005 6:30:41 AM PST by montag813
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To: muawiyah

You don't know what you are talking about. Creation is not contained in the theory of evolution.

Darwin used selective breeding in dogs and other animals as an example of how natural selection works in the wild.

Btw, I am a Christian minister, so I don't have anything against Christians, just heretical conmen that make Christians look stupid.


17 posted on 02/28/2005 7:21:22 AM PST by shubi (Peace through superior firepower.)
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To: zygoat

Technically, all humans are apes. So, don't worry you didn't come from an ape. You are a hairless ape right now.


18 posted on 02/28/2005 7:22:33 AM PST by shubi (Peace through superior firepower.)
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To: tx_eggman

Yeah, advise all your friends to be delusional. Reality is such a hard thing to take.


19 posted on 02/28/2005 7:23:23 AM PST by shubi (Peace through superior firepower.)
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To: Savage Beast

In this case it is not religion so much as fraud that keeps the creationist con game going.


20 posted on 02/28/2005 7:24:19 AM PST by shubi (Peace through superior firepower.)
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