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To: Cronos; Do not dub me shapka broham; Squantos

>>>> Kissinger chose short term gains at the expense of creating long-term headaches -- by cozying up to Pakiland and the Chicoms, he forced the republic of India to cozy up to China's other giant neighbor -- the USSR.

No, India was already cozied up to the USSR by then. But again, please don't trouble me with India's internal problems during the Cold War. The communists were busy murdering 100 million people all over the planet We had many, many, many more serious issues to worry about besides India's internal issues. I'm sorry you're not happy with America's decisions regarding India's indecision, but you were too busy to be troubled with global freedom. We on the other hand, were financing and dying all over the planet to save it from communism.

You should keep in mind that most Americans were very much against Great Britain's colonialism in India. The Anglosphere was not monolithic on that issue. But after WWII, and after independence, India had a clear choice. Behind the scenes, I'm sure that Americans were working to pressure Britain to honor India's nonviolence protests.

Once and for all, it chose wrong in holding the entire west responsible for the 17th century errors of Britain. India chose to side with the Gulags. It chose to side with the death camps. It chose to side with collectivist tyranny beyond human imagination. There is simply no way to exculpate India for its gross error in non-allignment, and its drift toward the Soviet union.

It's time to forgive and move forward, however. India has to earn its place on the world scene by reaching out beyond its borders and helping the west to defend freedom. India has to draw itself out of selfish introspection and become a global force for freedom instead of simply a Machiavellian entity seeking its own advantage.

It can happen. You personally are responsible for seeing it to fruition. I can't do it. My people are fighting for their lives and the lives and freedom of everyone on the planet. We're already doing our part. When will you?


75 posted on 02/28/2005 11:32:38 PM PST by risk
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To: risk
We on the other hand, were financing and dying all over the planet to save it from communism.

Note: the Korean war and the Vietnam wars were just wars. Nixon, on the other hand, got us just short term gains, but he built up the slamofascists in Pakistan and the communists in China -- big mistakes that we're paying for now.
81 posted on 03/01/2005 6:53:23 AM PST by Cronos (Never forget 9/11)
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To: risk
Once and for all, it chose wrong in holding the entire west responsible for the 17th century errors of Britain

17th century???????? The Brits only landed in India in the 17th century and got toe-holds in Bombay, Madras and Calcutta at that time. THey only managed to get large tracts of the country after the Indians had their own version of a World War -- the First and Second Battles of Panipat. After that, the Brits kind of walked in and took over.
82 posted on 03/01/2005 6:55:14 AM PST by Cronos (Never forget 9/11)
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To: risk
India chose to side with the Gulags. It chose to side with the death camps. It chose to side with collectivist tyranny beyond human imagination

Then WHAT do you call Nixon's choice of standing by Communist China, the same Communist China that killed millions of its own citizens (yeah, Mao outdid even Stalin)???
83 posted on 03/01/2005 6:56:24 AM PST by Cronos (Never forget 9/11)
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To: risk
My people are fighting for their lives and the lives and freedom of everyone on the planet. We're already doing our part. When will you

Oh, the Indians are also fighting for their lives against the Paki slamofascists -- and they get mighty ticked off that the US supports the Paki nutcases. The US got involved in the WoT only when it got attacked on 9/11, India's been under fire from the slamofascists for centuries and from alQ since the 1990s, way before the US joined the WoT. If the US really wants to win the WoT, it should decimate Pakiland, rid it of its nukes and do the same to SAudi A. The SAudis bankroll ALL Sunni Slamic terror and the Pakis provide the training grounds.

Your statement is a joke -- Indians are already dying for the WoT -- and they were supporting the Northern Alliance in Afghanistan way before 9/11 and they are buildign up that country's infrastructure. I don't see the US attacking the Paki terror training camps in occupied Kashmir. IMO, that's something that must be done. India and US MUST be allies, but the cold-war dinosaurs can't see that their Paki friends are really fiends
84 posted on 03/01/2005 7:00:54 AM PST by Cronos (Never forget 9/11)
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