Are we fools led by liars? (THE EU CONSTITUTION EXPLAINED)

The Times ^ | February 28, 2005 | William Rees-Mogg

[sanchez810]

That's true but you cant prevent him from voicing support for it. Plus, the euro skeptics could get financial support from Conservative institutions and intellectual firepower as well.

[MadIvan]

Well we've already got some of that - Dick Morris is helping the UK Independence Party here. I am sure we will not be without friends come campaign time. Remember, if one country says "No", the entire house of cards comes crashing down.

Regards, Ivan

[sodpoodle]

“What is the problem for which the European Union is the solution?”

France and Germany trying to resuscitate the USSR? Short term indigestion - long term disintigration.

And then I read your Post #20 - "destined to collapse"

So what is your point?
sp

[JeffersonRepublic.com]

“The Union shall work for sustainable development of Europe based on balanced economic growth and price stability, a highly competitive social market economy, aiming at full employment and social progress, and with a high level of protection and improvement of the quality of the environment. It shall promote scientific and technological advance.”

This is a marketing ploy, not a constitution.

When will the Eur-inals realize that the bureaucracy of the EU is building the new U.S.S.R.?

Holtz
JeffersonRepublic.com

[sanchez810]

I recall that a Eurocrat said it depended on which country it was (Watch out Britain).

[Cold Heat]

This has gone far, far beyond what was intended as a trade union.

IMO, they will regret this very soon.

One would hope GB sees through this French attempt at regaining the power it has longed for.

[sodpoodle]

My post:
"France and Germany trying to resuscitate the USSR? Short term indigestion - long term disintigration"

Your post:
"When will the Eur-inals realize that the bureaucracy of the EU is building the new U.S.S.R.?"

posts separated by 5 seconds - were we separated at birth??? LOL

[Righty_McRight]

It creates a state. Article 11: “The constitution establishes the European Union.” Article 15a: “The constitution . . . shall have primacy over the law of the member states.”

Why do I get the feeling that America is going to be helping the UK gain Independence in ten years?

[JeffersonRepublic.com]

Great minds think alike.

[sodpoodle]

That will be about the same time that Prince Charles assumes the monarchy.

Ahhhhhh the monarchy - that which separates the UK from the EU states. There is a joker in the deck.

Long live the King.

[JeffersonRepublic.com]

"European Union.” Article 15a: “The constitution . . . shall have primacy over the law of the member states.”"

Goodbye Spain. I wonder if they would be allowed to rejoin the U.S. in Iraq after signing this document?

Holtz
JeffersonRepublic.com

[Restorer]

The strength of the American constitution is in its transparency and relevance.

And they manage to screw up its interpretation anyway.

Imagine what the judiciary could do with something like the European Constitution.

[clamper1797]

Sounds like your garden variety Dimocrat

[Righty_McRight]

Goodbye Spain. I wonder if they would be allowed to rejoin the U.S. in Iraq after signing this document?

If everyone passed it they wouldn't be able to unless the EU as a whole decided it. I think that's how it would work. The member states will sorta lose control of their military since you can't do anything that goes against the will of the EU as a whole. France may of finally conquered the Brits.

[FreedomSurge]

"a highly competitive social market economy"

How about - a highly competitive super market economy?

[dog breath]

The British should follow the advice of Monty Python in the Holy Grail, and "Run away!, Run away!", when it comes to the European Union. It is the killer rabbit come to life, for it looks harmless enough at first glance but is really quite dangerous. The British are too intelligent to further become involved in this train wreck.

[GVnana]

The Union shall work for sustainable development of Europe based on balanced economic growth and price stability, a highly competitive social market economy, aiming at full employment and social progress, and with a high level of protection and improvement of the quality of the environment. It shall promote scientific and technological advance.”

That won't last long.

[Unam Sanctam]

A lot of the complexity of the Constitutional Treaty is merely carried over from the two existing EU treaties.

[GVnana]

worried about the EU as a counter-weight to the USA

Try EU, China and maybe Russia in the mix. Then you really do have something to worry about. The world won't be a better place.

[WorkingClassFilth]

Good luck. I once followed a link from here (FR) that allowed the reading of the EU Constitutional draft. I forget what article is was near the end of the document, but it was essentially an 'all promises are null and void if, and when, we decide this is so' kind of clause. Not too comforting to know that whatever is said about human rights is solely conditional on the whims of the elite.