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Three Big Disagreements With Libertarians
Citizens Outreach ^ | 27FEB05 | Chuck Muth

Posted on 02/27/2005 2:55:24 PM PST by 82Marine89

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1 posted on 02/27/2005 2:55:25 PM PST by 82Marine89
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I suggest that the Libertarian positions on these three BIG issues discourage a lot of disgruntled limited-government voters, particularly Republicans, from making the leap to their party.

I suggest the disgruntled Republicans that make up 1/3 of the Libertarian Party come on back to the GOP. Get invloved and help to change the GOP back to it's roots and away from the RINO's.

2 posted on 02/27/2005 3:00:54 PM PST by Trteamer ( (Eat Meat, Wear Fur, Own Guns, FReep Leftists, Drive an SUV, Drill A.N.W.R., Drill the Gulf, Vote)
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To: 82Marine89
Suggested language for libertarian party:
3 posted on 02/27/2005 3:05:40 PM PST by DannyTN
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I suggest the disgruntled Republicans that make up 1/3 of the Libertarian Party come on back to the GOP.

I did.
4 posted on 02/27/2005 3:09:26 PM PST by wolfpat (Dum vivimus, vivamus)
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So did I!


5 posted on 02/27/2005 3:11:21 PM PST by Trteamer ( (Eat Meat, Wear Fur, Own Guns, FReep Leftists, Drive an SUV, Drill A.N.W.R., Drill the Gulf, Vote)
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To: 82Marine89

The author forgot the big druggie issue and the big sexual perversion issue.

The (L)'s in general carry around tons of nasty baggage.

And then they wonder why no one votes for them.


6 posted on 02/27/2005 3:13:25 PM PST by k2blader (It is neither compassionate nor conservative to support the expansion of socialism.)
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I view them as a party that wants to get stoned. Pay less taxes so they can have more money to get stoned. Have a smaller government so they don't have to worry about getting busted. Then say 'Peace' to the rest of the world.


7 posted on 02/27/2005 3:13:38 PM PST by 82Marine89 (U.S. Marines- Part of the Navy....The men's department.)
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There are a lot of anti-abortion libertarians.
8 posted on 02/27/2005 3:16:04 PM PST by bahblahbah
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It's the second issue -- foreign policy -- that makes me a libertarian Republican, instead of a Libertarian Party member.

There are people in the world who would destroy America for being a free society that makes what they want look bad. We need to be proactive, not reactive in stopping them. (And recent Libertarian Party leaders would have us not even be reactive).

I will still consider Libertarians at the local and, maybe, even state level. But I can no longer vote for Libertarian Party Presidential candidates in the face of terrorist attacks on this country.
9 posted on 02/27/2005 3:19:02 PM PST by Celtjew Libertarian (Shake Hands with the Serpent: Poetry by Charles Lipsig aka Celtjew http://books.lulu.com/lipsig)
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There are a lot of anti-abortion libertarians.

I guess that would make the rest pro-choice?
10 posted on 02/27/2005 3:19:07 PM PST by 82Marine89 (U.S. Marines- Part of the Navy....The men's department.)
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Those three issues are why my membership in the Libertarian Party lasted all of, oh, three months or so. I agree with the principles of libertarianism, but I don't see how infanticide, weakness on national security, and civilizationally-suicidal border/immigration policies advance any libertarian principle. The LP stances on those issues strike me as having completely lost sight of the foundational principles, tossed away in favor of an absolutist perversion of derived principle.


11 posted on 02/27/2005 3:19:30 PM PST by thoughtomator (Unafraid to be unpopular)
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Really.

"Three Big Disagreements" and not one of them the legalization of all drugs, the very first thing one thinks of when hearing the words, Libertarian Party.

Talk about the elephant in the living room!

12 posted on 02/27/2005 3:19:30 PM PST by robertpaulsen
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They had good ideas in the beginning, but too much dope turned them into, well, dopes.

Come back to the Republicans -- and all you Anglo-Catholics who are getting kicked out of the Anglican Communion by the people who have the quaint idea that there are such things as Right and Wrong -- come back to the Catholic Church. We don't need two Anglican churches. We need to return to the people who believe what we have discovered we believe, after all, and help fix the things that need fixing.


13 posted on 02/27/2005 3:20:03 PM PST by KateatRFM
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I support drug legalization. But I have never used nor wanted to use any illegal drugs, even were they made legal.


14 posted on 02/27/2005 3:20:22 PM PST by Celtjew Libertarian (Shake Hands with the Serpent: Poetry by Charles Lipsig aka Celtjew http://books.lulu.com/lipsig)
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I view them as a party that wants to get stoned.

I'm a registered Repub; but have Libertarian leanings. I have not, nor have I ever been a drug user.

But let's approach this logically. Has the WoD done anything other than drive the desirability of contraband up, created more addictive drugs, created a highly profitable underground and filled our jails with non-violent offenders?

Prohibition has NEVER worked. In the recorded history of man, I defy you to provide one instance where gov't prohibition of a substance has been effective.

Look what happened when some well-meaning people tried to prohibit alcohol. We inspired gangsters to move beyond gambling and prostitution, we created a market for far more potent drinks (whiskey was disdained as the drink of 'drunks'), we made a low profit commodity a high profit commodity, and how many lives were cut short? Now, you are applying the same mind set to drugs. Simply said, it doesn't work.

15 posted on 02/27/2005 3:21:37 PM PST by Hodar (With Rights, come Responsibilities. Don't assume one, without assuming the other.)
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It makes me wonder how they can claim to be conservative?


16 posted on 02/27/2005 3:21:53 PM PST by 82Marine89 (U.S. Marines- Part of the Navy....The men's department.)
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Because one thing is indisputable - no one is more anti-socialist than the Libertarians.


17 posted on 02/27/2005 3:23:57 PM PST by thoughtomator (Unafraid to be unpopular)
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There is no consensus among libertarians on this issue. Yo have your baby killers, pro-lifers, and the people who believe the federal government should not be deciding such issues.
18 posted on 02/27/2005 3:24:26 PM PST by bahblahbah
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I agree that it should be a state issue.


19 posted on 02/27/2005 3:26:48 PM PST by 82Marine89 (U.S. Marines- Part of the Navy....The men's department.)
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To: DannyTN

if you really think all libertarians do drugs, you're a mouth-breathing idiot. sorry, but it's just not that simple.


20 posted on 02/27/2005 3:27:01 PM PST by Libertarian4Bush
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