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Is circumcision the kiss of death or source of life?
Toward Tradition ^ | 2/21/2005 | Samuel Silver

Posted on 02/26/2005 5:16:19 PM PST by Babwa

The national news media is abuzz with a story about the possible link between the tragic death of an infant Jewish boy from herpes and his circumcision. At the same time, the media has not fully reported on the fact that circumcision could save millions of lives from the scourge of AIDS.

The problem is that circumcision is in the Bible, which makes it a serious violation of the religion practiced by the majority in academia and the mainstream media - secular fundamentalism. They have stood by while millions died and continue to die. How differently they value human life than Judaism and the Judeo-Christian tradition.

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KEYWORDS: abortion; aids; barbarism; bris; circumcision; cosmeticsurgery; electivesurgery; female; genitalmutilation; herpes; itsmybody; itsnotmutilation; judeochristian; letmyforeskingo; male; mazaltov; mensrights; milah; mutilation; nerves; netherregions; ouch; prolife; religion; sesitivity; sex; sexual; snipit; towardtradition; uncut; vaginal
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1 posted on 02/26/2005 5:16:21 PM PST by Babwa
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To: Babwa; MotleyGirl70; Larry Lucido

MOHEL: People compose yourselves. (Shouting as the struggle ends) This is a bris. We are performing a bris here, not a burlesque show. This is not a school play! This is not a baggy pants farce! This is a bris. An sacred, ancient ceremony, symbolizing the covenant between God and Abraham... or something. (The Mohel opens his bag to start the process but drops it and his instruments fall out. People attempt to help him out) No! Don't touch it! Don't touch a thing!

ELAINE: Ok.

MOHEL: (muttering to Jerry).. I coulda been a kosher butcher like my brother. The money's good. There's a union, with benefits. And, cows have no families. You make a mistake with a cow, you move on with your life... Anyway.


2 posted on 02/26/2005 5:21:31 PM PST by Cagey
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To: Babwa

MEDICAL BENEFITS FROM CIRCUMCISION
http://www.geocities.com/WestHollywood/Park/6443/Circumcision/circumcision.html

Read the part under "Anti-circumcision lobby groups" to see what kind of people are behind such efforts.

And the same hysterical folks--many who have sexual identity problems among them--lie about the "AMERICAN ACADEMY OF PEDIATRICS: Circumcision Policy Statement," the Abstract of which begins, "Existing scientific evidence demonstrates potential medical benefits of newborn male circumcision;..."

http://aappolicy.aappublications.org/cgi/content/full/pediatrics%3b103/3/686

The balance of evidence leans toward the benefits of circumcision, and there certainly is not enough reasonable (as opposed to hysterical rants) evidence against it to suit neo-Nazis and homosexual activists by outlawing it.


3 posted on 02/26/2005 5:34:48 PM PST by familyop ("Let us try" sounds better, don't you think? "Essayons" is so...Latin.)
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To: Babwa

I'm not sure that the words "kiss" and "circumcision" belong in the same book, much less the same sentence.


4 posted on 02/26/2005 5:35:57 PM PST by RichInOC (...oops, did I post that?)
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To: Babwa

Keep the tip.


5 posted on 02/26/2005 5:36:24 PM PST by andy58-in-nh
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To: RichInOC

Your comment was spinning around in my head as I - inexplicably - clicked into this thread...


6 posted on 02/26/2005 5:37:06 PM PST by ErnBatavia (ErnBatavia, Boxer, Pelosi, Thomas...the ultimate nightmare Menage a Quatro)
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To: Babwa
This was written about in the Jewish Press here in LA this week.

The circumcision tradition should continue, but metzizah b'peh is next to insanity today.

7 posted on 02/26/2005 5:39:06 PM PST by onedoug
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To: andy58-in-nh

There's a job opening at the circus.

Circumcising elephants.

Pay isn't much, but you get BIG tips.


8 posted on 02/26/2005 5:42:32 PM PST by wizr (Freedom ain't free.)
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To: Babwa

Didn't this guy know he had herpes??


9 posted on 02/26/2005 5:47:32 PM PST by Tabi Katz
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To: Babwa

Guess I'm having a problem in understanding the infant died of herpes. The mental vision I'm having is not pleasant.


10 posted on 02/26/2005 5:58:23 PM PST by lilylangtree (Veni, Vidi, Vici)
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To: Tabi Katz; All
80% of all humans have had a herpes virus in one form or another:
Chicken Pox, Measles, Rubella, Cold Sores, Genital Herpes, Multiple Sclerosis and Shingles just to name a few.
11 posted on 02/26/2005 6:01:01 PM PST by olde north church (Hasten, Brothers, on your way, exulting as a knight in victory.)
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To: onedoug

Wow. No kidding. Health considerations entirely aside, that's just asking for trouble.


12 posted on 02/26/2005 6:03:18 PM PST by RichInOC (...don't tell Michael Jackson, or he'll want to convert.)
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To: familyop

My two sons had circumcisons. It's healthier.


13 posted on 02/26/2005 6:05:34 PM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: olde north church

Pardon my ignorance, but wouldn't you have to have an active sore to transmit the virus?


14 posted on 02/26/2005 6:11:22 PM PST by Tabi Katz
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To: Tabi Katz

Yes.


15 posted on 02/26/2005 6:12:24 PM PST by cyborg (http://mentalmumblings.blogspot.com/)
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To: wizr
There's a job opening at the circus.

Circumcising elephants.

Pay isn't much, but you get BIG tips.

They use them to make Magic Wallets.

Rub it, and it turns into a suitcase.

16 posted on 02/26/2005 6:14:52 PM PST by Gorzaloon
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To: cyborg

Thought so - I wonder what this guy was thinking, sucking on babies' weenies with a cold sore in his mouth.


17 posted on 02/26/2005 6:15:43 PM PST by Tabi Katz
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To: Babwa

***At the same time, the media has not fully reported on the fact that circumcision could save millions of lives from the scourge of AIDS. ***

Keeping your penis out of your buddies butt and his out of yours could save millions of lives also. The media also doesnt say much about abstinence.


18 posted on 02/26/2005 6:16:58 PM PST by sgtbono2002
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To: Tabi Katz

I find it very hard to believe, but it is a real ceremony. In these modern times, I don't see much use for it.


19 posted on 02/26/2005 6:17:51 PM PST by cyborg (http://mentalmumblings.blogspot.com/)
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To: wizr

Advertisement by a hospital:
Wanted, person to work and train in the baby ward.
Pays 40 skins a week, plus tips and a real chance to get a head.


20 posted on 02/26/2005 6:19:33 PM PST by DH
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