Posted on 02/26/2005 1:27:31 PM PST by srm913
I would never turn my back on my child. Never.
Did her dad read the post? Is that what convinced him?
(Yikes, what am I doing here...I was drikink mod, please don't ban me)
If it was just one life you were affecting it would be no problem, but that's not the case here.
Agreed.
What is that suppose to mean?
I made a plain statement: he didn't seem bothered by her being a lesbian until she came out for all the world to see.
Now, I don't know what you're talking about, "just one life you're affecting."
Name me one thing in the entire world that doesn't affect more than one person.
I want to bet on the Red spade to my right.
No, he's not a prominant Republican, he's a nut.
I use to respect Keys. I don't know if I've matured, or he's gone off his rocker. I think probably a little bit of both.
Yah! That's what Jesus did! He disowned all the tax collectors and prostitutes!
It was that other Jesus who ate with them and talked to them all day!
No, of course not - but unless I missed something, I don't think anyone said she should.
I think it's possible that she isn't the only one who looks a little bit bad here, though, if the breaking point with Maya's behavior came only when she went public - but, like I said before, it's his family and he can handle it the way he wants to.
My problem is that he went ahead and allowed the issue of homosexuality to be personalized in a negative way with the Cheneys' daughter, all the while knowing his own daughter was a lesbian.
I think that was a mistake on his part.
That makes two of us. And communication between parent and child is so important and base. This whole thing doesn't seem to pass the smell test in the Keyes' honesty and decency.
I just don't know - I just think he should have laid off Mary Cheney, given what we now know about his own family.
Careful, if your Jesus is more Jesus than Keyes Jesus, what in the Jesus does that mean?
One other thing I wouldn't do is let my "supporters" trash my child.
Like I said, his heart is broken, put yourself in his place.
But if I did I would say the catholic Keyes is just following the book.
It says in there in what is called 1 Cor. 5:11
But as it is, I wrote to you not to associate with anyone who is called a [christian] who is a sexual sinner, or covetous, or an idolater, or a slanderer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner. Don't even eat with such a person.
Pretty darn clear even to me, things like covetous and slanderer are much harder to prove, but that sex one is real clear. As a libertarian, I would have booted her for spitting in my face and trying to hurt me politically, because that is the intention of those leftwingers who recruited her as their puppet.
The Republicans should have run a real candidate instead of the preacherman Keyes, because Obama is a dirty snake lefty and is being groomed for bigger things.
Yeah. Like that.
I didn't criticize how he is handling this - but if I was in his place, I would have declined to discuss Mary Cheney at all.
The reporter is not reliable, and probably never heard the exchange between Ambassadore Keyes and the reporter that is quoted.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1204846/posts
We know that Ambassador Keyes never actually mentioned any names. He said that the gay lifestyle was one of selfish hedonism, and the reporter asked if that applied to Dick Cheney's daughter and he had to remain consistent. If he knew about his daughter at the time, how sad and how painful the interview's direction must have been. But, it doesn't matter who we're talking about, the truth is the truth.
(Obviously the earlier reporter did not know about the Keyes girl, or he would have asked about her.)
My own parents "disowned" me for a couple of weeks, beginning the morning I left their house - as an 18 year old high school senior - to be married to a boy of another denomination. Daddy was a pastor in a local church. They had two other teens. I know that they couldn't just give me all the support I wanted, then. (My in-laws did support us and I love them for it. But they weren't a preacher's family.)
As I said, in 2 weeks, we were talking, and by the end of the month, my husband and I were visiting both them and the church. They've grieved along with me and we've all forgiven each other. I'm married 31 years, now, and Larry is their favorite - and only son-in-law.
This family is bound to be in horrible pain. I'm praying for them and for the girl. I hope she falls in love with some wonderful man, by the grace of God.
Whether he mentioned the name or not is a distinction that makes no difference.
He could have said something like, "I don't think it's helpful to personalize the issue to try to embarrass or be critical of any particular individual, but I absolutely stand by my remarks."
Many people interpreted what he DID say as a cheap shot before the truth about his own family was revealed. Now it appears as though he was hiding his own situation while gratuitously agreeing to focus on someone else's daughter.
Some people think that's cool, I guess. I don't.
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