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To: don-o
If you believe, as I think that you do, that Jesus intercedes with the Father, and if "dead believers" (can we say "fully alive Saints") are in face to face union with Him, why could they not also intercede for us?

They would need to be able to receive prayers from innumerable believers simultaneously. The angel that went to Daniel could not come to him for 21 days because he was battling with the Prince of Persia. I am of the opinion that the believers in heaven are similarly still subject to time constraints. We do not acquire divine attributes when we get to heaven.

Only God is outside of time, capable of receiving the prayers of millions of believers simultaneously. Of course Jesus Christ is God, ever making intercession for us at the right hand of the Father. Jesus should be enough, being that He is omniscient, omnipresent and omnipotent. Divine attributes that enable Him to handle all of our needs.

I would add that we are engaged in a spiritual battle here on earth, because Satan is the Prince of this World. I mention this because our fellow believers on earth are currently participating in the battle with us, thus relevant to prayer requests. The believers in heaven are no longer subject to Satan's rule, and are therefore no longer engaged in the battle until Christ's second coming.

37 posted on 02/26/2005 4:51:23 PM PST by bondserv (Sincerity with God is the most powerful instigator for change! † [Check out my profile page])
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To: bondserv
I am of the opinion that the believers in heaven are similarly still subject to time constraints.

How can the Saints be face to face with our Lord and be constrained?

I will say, that just as one asks his brothers and sisters on earth to pray and intercede, one can also ask his bothers and sisters who have gone on.

41 posted on 02/26/2005 6:04:41 PM PST by don-o (Stop Freeploading. Do the right thing and become a Monthly Donor.)
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To: bondserv

Wow! My husband who is Catholic (I am not) and I debate this all the time. I think that's a great explanation.


52 posted on 02/26/2005 9:01:39 PM PST by TightyRighty
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