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CA: Nurses angrily pursue governor over staff ratios
Sac Bee ^ | 2/26/05 | Clea Benson and Gary Delsohn

Posted on 02/26/2005 10:34:16 AM PST by NormsRevenge

Everywhere the governor goes these days, the loud, angry nurses seem to follow.

Members of the California Nurses Association stood up as Schwarzenegger was speaking at the Sheraton Grand on Thursday and unfurled a banner reading, "Stop the Power Grab."

A week earlier, they protested as the Republican governor and a group of Hollywood stars arrived for a Sacramento movie premiere. The California Highway Patrol pulled one nurse out of the theater audience for questioning after spotting her hospital uniform.

The CNA plans to fly an anti-Schwar-zenegger banner over the Oscar ceremonies in Hollywood on Sunday night. Officials of the state's largest nurses union say their concern is patient safety: They want the governor to stop blocking new regulations that would boost the number of nurses hospitals are required to have on duty.

Largely due to the sponsorship of the CNA, California last year became the first state in the nation to institute mandatory nurse-patient ratios for hospitals. Until Schwarzenegger stepped in, the allowable ratio of patients to nurses was scheduled to decrease in January. The plan would have increased the mandatory number of nurses since each nurse would be handling fewer patients.

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Schwarzenegger himself is dismissive of the protesters who are becoming a regular part of his political road show.

"They are becoming now more and more part of the set dressing," he said in an interview this week. "It's kind of like the extras when you do a movie and you need extras in the background. That's what they've become. That's fine with me."

(Excerpt) Read more at sacbee.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: angrily; california; governor; nurses; pursue; ratios; staff
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1 posted on 02/26/2005 10:34:17 AM PST by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge

Battle heats up between union, Schwarzenegger

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2005/02/26/MNGKVBHHPP1.DTL

Mark Martin, San Francisco Chronicle

Through television and newspaper ads, occasionally rowdy protests and even banners flown from airplanes, the union has dogged Schwarzenegger for two months in an effort to put a sympathetic human face -- one dressed in hospital scrubs -- on groups the governor has vilified.


2 posted on 02/26/2005 10:35:22 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ...... The War on Terrorism is the ultimate 'faith-based' initiative.)
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To: NormsRevenge

"The Republican governor," there's an old MSM phrase that used to be routine, then they would add "controversial" to the front of it.


3 posted on 02/26/2005 10:44:57 AM PST by Luke21
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To: NormsRevenge

Everywhere the governor goes these days, the loud, angry nurses seem to follow.

"Please Mr.Arnie, I don't wanna work, please don't make me get off my butt and earn my paycheck. Mr.Arnie, it's about the patients, please give us more nurses and a LOT more money".


4 posted on 02/26/2005 10:45:46 AM PST by taxesareforever
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To: NormsRevenge

Isn't $100,000 a year enough?

Why do they expect they should be paid more than the governor? We can afford to pay one person $100,000 -- but not thousands. That's what they don't seem to understand in their latest money grab. We've seen it countless times before and it's wearing thin. Their outrageous compensation demands are the reason for high inflation.

Look at what the unions did to the airlines. They raised the salaries so high they've virtually all gone bankrupt because there's no margin for error. They were paying the pilots a quarter of a million ten years ago -- and so when the pilots now are forced to give back 30%, that's still tremendously excessive salaries for what they do.

Unions are job-killers. All you people demanding $100,000 a year jobs guaranteed with no risks, no responsibilities and no accountability are the problem; you're not the solution.

The world doesn't need any more people like you.


5 posted on 02/26/2005 10:51:20 AM PST by MikeHu
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To: MikeHu

I'm with ya on the unions.

We do need nurses, however.

If , God forbid, ya were in the hospital and had to hit the emergency button and no one came .. who would you call? a nurses union official or the Gub?


6 posted on 02/26/2005 10:56:20 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ...... The War on Terrorism is the ultimate 'faith-based' initiative.)
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To: NormsRevenge
These nurses sponsored this hare-brained scheme, and now they're upset because they have to put in more hours?? DUH! W-T-F do you think is going to happen if a nurse/patient ratio is decreased? YOU'RE GONNA NEED MORE NURSES TO COVER MORE PATIENTS SEEKING CARE!!!

Are unions stupid or just stupid?

7 posted on 02/26/2005 11:09:00 AM PST by ServesURight
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To: NormsRevenge
Very disappointed in Schwarzenegger. Instead of tackling the real issues facing CA he's still doing the Hollywood schtick, attending movie premiers with vapid Hollywood liberals instead of helping real folks.

Actually, CA couldn't have picked a better person to run their state into the ground.

8 posted on 02/26/2005 11:13:35 AM PST by No-Compromise Conservative
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To: NormsRevenge

I wouldn't be paying the nurses to tell the governor what to do.

You seem to be on every thread advocating for higher union pay -- as one of these impartial, "objective" voices.

But all your arguments are besides the point, red herrings -- like a good union lobbyist who infiltrate all the forums with your nonsense.

In Hawaii, we pay most of our teachers not to teach. The teachers union gives themselves pay raises at the expense of those who actually do -- the substitutes. Now, the substitutes are wanting to create their own union to protect themselves against the abuses of the regular union.

The teachers and nurses tell you and everyone else what great jobs they have off the record because of high pay and little to do. Then for "public" statements, it's worst than any job in the world, requiring brain surgeons at every station.

Yeah, we were all born yesterday.


9 posted on 02/26/2005 11:17:33 AM PST by MikeHu
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To: MikeHu
Sorry, I'm with the nurses on this one. If California hadn't interfered none of this would be happening.

Nurses deserve to make every penny, and I don't blame them for unionizing. Nurses are in huge demand and these gals are just responding to the market. I for one don't want a scab or some unqualified soul working on my body when I'm sick, that's fer sure.

10 posted on 02/26/2005 11:18:53 AM PST by 12 Gauge Mossberg (I Approved This Posting - Paid For By Mossberg, Inc.)
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To: MikeHu

Apples and oranges, teaching and nursing unions. Anybody with half a brain & a GED can teach liberal PC gobbledygook to a bunch of snot-nosed kids. Nursing is actually a skill that requires medical terminology, coding, billing, algebra, pharmacology, social interaction, the works. Plus you have to pass a physical. No comparison with teaching.


11 posted on 02/26/2005 11:23:40 AM PST by 12 Gauge Mossberg (I Approved This Posting - Paid For By Mossberg, Inc.)
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To: 12 Gauge Mossberg
Nurses are in huge demand and these gals are just responding to the market.

So why are they unionized then?

12 posted on 02/26/2005 11:29:39 AM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (EEE)
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To: MikeHu

LOL.. The unions couldn't afford me,

Nice try , insult folks who question all sides of the issue and try to inspire some thought instead of unwittingly supporting the status quo , even as 'change agents' are on the scene, proclaiming we know how to fix everything, Just trust us..

What has changed for the better since the CA GOP abdicated its responsibilites to support conservatism and not just be a lapdog to moderates and democrats?

nonsense? you seem to be well versed in it.


13 posted on 02/26/2005 11:38:20 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ...... The War on Terrorism is the ultimate 'faith-based' initiative.)
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To: taxesareforever

Some of those nurses should hold a grope-a-thon for charity to raise money! (Well, maybe just a few of them...)


I have a friend who is a nurse at UC Berkeley, he says (he was US Army medic and NOT a queer)the unions are full of whiners and snivellers. He works double shifts because so many of them are too lazy to do the job...


14 posted on 02/26/2005 12:35:22 PM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: NormsRevenge

Schwartzenegger will crush them.


15 posted on 02/26/2005 12:36:05 PM PST by zbigreddogz
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To: 12 Gauge Mossberg
"don't blame them for unionizing. Nurses are in huge demand and these gals are just responding to the market."

That doesn’t seem to follow. If nurses are in such high demand (which they are, my wife’s one), why do they need to unionize? Why not let the market raise their pay?

16 posted on 02/26/2005 12:40:07 PM PST by elfman2 (Not paid to be PC)
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood
"unions are full of whiners and snivellers"

There’s a lot of that. Probably brings the good nurses down more than anything. Create unions and put those whiners in charge, and it’s institutionalized.

17 posted on 02/26/2005 12:42:45 PM PST by elfman2 (Not paid to be PC)
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To: NormsRevenge
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Well, if what I saw in the last 4 months that my husband was in the hospital has any bearing on what nurses duties are, I'd day he is right on the money. After the intial visit to the patient when they came on duty, we never saw a nurse again unless we peeked around a monitor and recieved their don't bother me now look. However we did hear them , while they exchange receipts, trashed other co-workers, discussed and order lunch, talked to each other and their friends on the phone about their steamy night before or their selfish in-laws.

The aides, on the other hand, were rushing around like chickens with their heads cut off, while still pleasant, I might add.

18 posted on 02/26/2005 12:48:26 PM PST by SweetCaroline (I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me...Philippians 4:13)
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To: SweetCaroline

sounds like an administrative and management issue.. not to mention, an insensitivity problem.


Hope your husband is well., Thanks for sharing your experience.

We have sure had enough experiences at hospitals the last few years to give mixed reviews as well.

The aides/underlings have usually been the ones more responsive and showng more concern, but they're not 'tenured' either or probably very high on the union totem pole.


19 posted on 02/26/2005 12:59:09 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ...... The War on Terrorism is the ultimate 'faith-based' initiative.)
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To: 12 Gauge Mossberg

lol, I wouldn't want a union nurse taking care of me. These dumbo's a po'ed that they got the nurse-to-patient ratios like they wanted and then the hospitals responded by firing their aides to keep costs inline. Thus they got all the crap work, now literally.


20 posted on 02/26/2005 1:00:25 PM PST by Diplomat
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