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President Cheney?
The Weekly Standard ^ | 03/07/05 | Fred Barnes

Posted on 02/26/2005 6:55:39 AM PST by Pokey78

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To: MindBender26; Pokey78

<< McCain is our Howard Dean. >>

You sure?

I'da thought he was their other one.


41 posted on 02/26/2005 9:01:24 AM PST by Brian Allen (I fly and can therefore be envious of no man -- Per Ardua ad Astra!)
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To: schu

Regarding Harry Truman?

Well said. Notwithstanding the bitter bile in an unnamed previous poster regarding Truman, the Truman presidency was a blessing in disguise, because if Roosevelt had NOT pushed Henry Wallace (an unabashed socialist and quasi-communist) out of the VP slot, America would probably be under the hammer and sickle right now.

Truman had the guts to use the atomic bomb, when others were trying to convince him not to use it. He also chose to make America the FIRST nation to recognize the newly reconstituted State of Israel, in 1948. That is nothing to take lightly. His decision regarding MacArthur was unfortunate, however as President, Truman knew something that MacArthur did not - that at the time MacArthur was pushing to invade Red China and expand the theatre of operations, America's total nuclear arsenal consisted of 13 (THIRTEEN) atomic bombs, and that was IT.

Those thirteen atomic bombs, mostly based upon the Nagasaki design, were the only thing we had that could stop a Soviet invasion of Western Europe, which was definitely a possibility while Stalin was in power. If America had chosen to fight a land war with Beijing over Korea, there would have been no way to stop the Soviets in Europe. Truman knew this. MacArthur did not.

Truman did not betray Nationalist China, far from it. He made it clear that the U.S. would defend Taiwan if Mao and his hordes attempted to invade that island. The fact that Taiwan still exists today proves that Truman's policy was the correct one. It was Carter who stabbed the knife into the back of Taiwan, not Harry Truman.

As for Eastern Europe, Truman didn't back down to the Soviets, and the Berlin Airlift proved that. We didn't abandon Berlin. We saved it from being strangled. But I don't need to defend Truman item-by-item, his record speaks for itself, and it is nothing to be ashamed of. Did he make mistakes? Sure. Name me one President who didn't, hasn't, or won't. Was Truman a man of his word, and a man of honor?

You bet your ass. These latter day historical de-constructionists who think they know everything (again, unnamed) make me want to puke.


42 posted on 02/26/2005 9:01:54 AM PST by Mad Mammoth
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To: Reagan is King
Cheney-Rice ticket in 2008?

Worthy of consideration. It would allow Dr. Rice to win her first elected office on Cheney's coattails and prepare her for the whole enchilada in 2012 and knock the Hildabeast out of contention permanently.

Cheney/Rice in 2008

Rice/ ? in 2012 and 2016 :-)

43 posted on 02/26/2005 9:05:55 AM PST by varon (Allegiance to the constitution, always. Allegiance to a political party, never.)
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To: David; Condor51

<< Good post on Truman. I agree.

Harry was directly responsible for the fact that my entire generation lived its active productive life in the context of the Cold War. And the current geopolitical climate is a direct follow on result. >>

Hear! Hear!

With much assistance from the succeeding traitors, frauds, crooks, liars, looters, thieves, mass-murderers and co-serial rapists -- not necessarily in that order: Kennedy; Johnson; Carter and the Klingtongs.


44 posted on 02/26/2005 9:09:28 AM PST by Brian Allen (I fly and can therefore be envious of no man -- Per Ardua ad Astra!)
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To: Pokey78

If I had the choice between staying in DC or going home to Wyoming.............well, really is there even a consideration there.

Thank you Dick Cheney for the many years of service to your country. May you have many years of family time and fishing in Wyoming.


45 posted on 02/26/2005 9:10:05 AM PST by WestCoastGal (Re: Nascar drivers...They're like Doberman Pinchers with a hand grenade in their mouths."~BORIS SAID)
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To: Condor51

Don't keep everything all bottled up. If you've got something on your mind, let it out. :) Couldn't agree with you more.


46 posted on 02/26/2005 9:15:10 AM PST by DC Bound
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To: Huck

one could say that Cheney's role in the background has been perfect for launching a candidacy in 2008. He could emerge into the light more and more after 2006. If that starts to happen, then this scenario would be enabled and foreshadowed.


47 posted on 02/26/2005 9:17:25 AM PST by ontos-on
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To: Pokey78

I think Cheney has been a real stand out VP. I would prefer he not run.


48 posted on 02/26/2005 9:23:27 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: Brian Allen; Mad Mammoth; David; Condor51
OK, so we were betrayed. Maybe you can point me to the public support for confronting communism in eastern Europe and Asia that existed at that time.

It is grand to look at the situation and say we shoulda, coulda and gosh, look how things would have been different. It is very different given the political climate at that time. The US had just been through 15+ years of war and depression, they had no stomach for what it would take to defeat Stalin and Mao.
49 posted on 02/26/2005 9:25:17 AM PST by schu
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To: Pokey78

"In the final two years of Bush's second term, the president will be a lame duck whose agenda has been exhausted."

I don't know. President Bush could really liven things up by trying to cut the budget.


50 posted on 02/26/2005 9:26:13 AM PST by Irish Rose (Asparagus inspires gentle thoughts.)
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To: Always Right

Could please give us some history on how Always Right your prior reports have been, so we may have some sense as to the reliability of your present report.


51 posted on 02/26/2005 9:34:23 AM PST by ontos-on
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To: Pokey78
VP Cheney and i share the same heart conditions and i would vote for him in a heart beat.Heart problems does not affect the brain or it has not mine in the 30 years.I say run Dick run see Dick run.
52 posted on 02/26/2005 9:36:06 AM PST by solo gringo (Liberal democrats are parasites)
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To: ontos-on
Could please give us some history on how Always Right your prior reports have been, so we may have some sense as to the reliability of your present report.

I sourced it to DUmmieland, how much more reliable can you get. I mean didn't Bush steal both elections, didn't Bush plot the 9-11 attacks, didn't Bush rig Welstone's plane to crash.....

53 posted on 02/26/2005 9:40:30 AM PST by Always Right
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To: solo gringo
I say run Dick run see Dick run.

Dick has stated he is not gonna run, unlike Hillary that really means he is not gonna run.

54 posted on 02/26/2005 9:42:31 AM PST by Always Right
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To: Mad Mammoth
He (Truman) made it clear that the U.S. would defend Taiwan if Mao...

Uh-huh. Except, that if HST didn't abandon Chang in the first place, there's be no reason nor need to 'defend Taiwan'.

And the baloney surrounding HST is like that of JFK "saving us" during the Cuban Missile Crisis. But it's never mentioned (except by Ann Coulter) that JFK CAUSED IT in the first place by showing zero resolve in stopping the spread on communism during a prior summit meeting with ole Nikita.

btw, it's not 'Bitter Bile'. It's utter disgust and hatred for a 4th rate political hack who sold freedom down the river.

55 posted on 02/26/2005 9:45:35 AM PST by Condor51 (May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't. - Gen G Patton)
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To: Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit

Rice and Beans


56 posted on 02/26/2005 9:46:59 AM PST by NobleEagle2004 ("You Are The 1st Brigade!"StoneWall Jackson)
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To: Condor51
And on the other hand, Marshall's "greatness" is a myth as well. One only needs acquaintance with his reall role in the Army prior to and during the war. Then who was the real author of the directed aid called the Marshall Plan. It was actually the GOP who required that Marshall's plan which was carte balnche to all nations indiscriminately, was in the end focused so as to rebuild free nations.

The myths of the MSM and the Academic Left are legion and their danger is that they become like the air and secretly permeate all.

57 posted on 02/26/2005 10:03:14 AM PST by ontos-on
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To: schu; Mad Mammoth; David; Condor51

<< The US had just been through [Five] years of [The Roosevelt] war and [Eight years of the Roosevelt] depression, had no stomach for what it would take to defeat Stalin and Mao. >>

What absolute bloody rubbish!

Roosevelt surrendered all of Eastern Europe and millions of Soviet subjects into slavery because he was ill and dying and essentially incapacitated [And knew it when he ran for his fourth term as president] and because the Department of State and much of his administration was hugely influenced by their substantial infiltration of Soviet agents.

[Churchill was there but was by then not much more than an elderly drunkard, unable to handle Stalin -- and Roosevelt's malevolent Soviet agents -- on his own]

On his death, all of Roosevelt's Soviet agents were taken over by, acknowledged and tolerated by, increased in number and influence and allowed to dictate and/or direct the direction subsequently taken by by Truman and his mobbed-up "administration."

And as for Mao?

Truman's perfidious incompetence -- and his Soviets -- hadn't yet even created, enabled and facilitated that most evil of all of Human History's long succession of monstrous, mass-murdering, child-rapist, evil, bastards!


58 posted on 02/26/2005 10:07:29 AM PST by Brian Allen (I fly and can therefore be envious of no man -- Per Ardua ad Astra!)
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To: Pokey78

If she decided to run for the Republican presidential nomination in 2008, she would face the distinct disadvantage of being a first-time candidate.

What an idiot. Why did he bother writing this article?


59 posted on 02/26/2005 10:10:38 AM PST by Walkingfeather (q)
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To: Brilliant

Oh, we did not know that, Dr. Brilliant.


60 posted on 02/26/2005 10:17:07 AM PST by ontos-on
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